Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Army Divisions Message-ID: <1991Jan12.011508.24071@cbnews.att.com> Date: 12 Jan 91 01:15:08 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 55 Approved: military@att.att.com From: sun!apple!cup.portal.com!Eric_S_Klien " Let's hope no other 'brushfire' lights up somewhere else in the world. So what's left in the 'active duty' inventory and where are they? " If anything happened elsewhere in the world we would be in deep trouble. Remember that 100% of our active duty cargo ships are being used. We are also starting to run out of reserve ships. There has been some talk of reactivating the old Victory ships. So basically we have near zero sealift and airlift capacity for other conflicts. On the other hand, we are going to do real well in Iraq since the world is peaceful enough for us to go wild and send everything to our buddy Saddam. I estimate that 50% of our firepower has been sent and this number will continue to increase until the war with Iraq ends. An extended war could get us to 60-75% easily. [mod.note: I think those are "Liberty" ships, not Victory ships. - Bill ] Here is some info from a letter I received, I think the percentages are a little low based on other letters that I don't have copies of at the moment: "I don't know the percentage of firepower that has been deployed. The specific units and the composition of those units remains classified. If we're talking total power, there is an insignificant amount when strategic nuclear forces are included. But, if you only consider conventional forces (and a few tactical nuclear assets) I would say there is quite a bit. Consider, there will be 6 to 8 of 14 carriers in the region (the Ranger hasn't left yet and there are rumors that the Nimitz will be sent also) and 2 of 3 active service battleships. At least 4 of the 13 cruisers which carry Tomahawk missiles are already there. With the two carrier groups in transit right now I would expect another 2. There are also a few Spruance class destroyers, also with Tomahawks. Right there is alot of firepower, nearly half the navy's ground attack capability. There are 9 tactical fighter wings deployed with maybe 3 more to be deployed. The US has 23 or so active combat wings, so that would be perhaps 40% of the US tactical air capability. There are 36 of 84 strike B-52s at Diego Garcia (in the middle of the Indian Ocean), a number that could be maximized in under 48 hours (40% with a potential of 100%) so that's a significant ammount of air power. Ground forces, on the other hand, is at this time impossible to estimate. With alot of active units being pulled from Germany I would make a rough guess and say that about 40% of the US ground capability is present in Saudi Arabia. This is mostly based on the percentages of air power present and the balance of combined arms strategy. The US military is based on the combined armes concept, that air and ground forces should act in tandem (remember 'blitzkreig'?). If the whole tactical force is based on this, if 40% of the air power is used, then 40% of the ground power will be used. Now, the sourcebook I have has the US total MBTs at 15,000. I doubt that the US has 6000 tanks in Saudi Arabia. This number includes training tanks and those tanks not 'active'. I would guess that there are hundreds of tanks, mostly M1-A1s. There might be over 1000 (probably) but I really don't have any information to go on."