Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!think.com!samsung!usc!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!rex!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!data.nas.nasa.gov!news From: lefty@TWG.COM (Lefty) Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: Re: Lotus Sutra on "the ultimate entity" Message-ID: <1991Jan16.011350.23210@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 16 Jan 91 01:13:50 GMT References: <1991Jan1.001930.8508@nas.nasa.gov> <1991Jan3.013302.28204@nas.nasa.gov> Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Organization: Interessengemeinschaft Maas-NeoTek Lines: 27 Approved: prabhu@amelia.nas.nasa.gov In article <1991Jan3.013302.28204@nas.nasa.gov> jwl@mvutd.att.com (James W Lacey) writes: > In article <1991Jan1.001930.8508@nas.nasa.gov>, gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo) writes: > > I recall what I thought to be a bit of wry humor in a day-long Zen > > sitting workshop when attendees were counseled that at some time during > > their sitting practice they might have unusual experiences, like becoming > > aware of past lives. The advice given was to keep one's attention > > focussed on the breath, and these things would pass.) [stuff deleted] > > I have heard/read similar advise, but it was made explict that > such "unusual experiences" were hallucinations. This is correct. In general, any particular "experience" you encounter while sitting zazen should be treated as a distraction and ignored. The mind tends to fight approaching the state of "mushin"; visions, "past life" memories and other odd experiences can result. The correct response is to return one's attention to the breath (if sitting shikan-taza). The Japanese term for this sort of thing is "makkyo". -- Lefty (lefty@twg.com) | "And you may ask yourself, D:.O:.D:., C:.M:.C:. | 'How do I work this?'"