Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!uunet!nuchat!shell!bcm!mbir.bcm.tmc.edu From: steffen@mbir.bcm.tmc.edu (David Steffen) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.evolution Subject: Homology/similarity/identity: proper usage. Message-ID: <3824@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 18:56:01 GMT Sender: usenet@bcm.tmc.edu Organization: Molecular Biology Information Resource, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Lines: 36 Nntp-Posting-Host: condor.mbir.bcm.tmc.edu Originator: steffen@condor.mbir.bcm.tmc.edu I am again struggling with the proper use of the words "homology", "similarity", and "identity" in comparing sequences. Specifically, we have cloned and sequenced (a bit of) the rat homologue of the _lck_ gene. The sequence of the mouse and human _lck_ genes is known. How do we know what we have is the rat homologue? Because when we compare our sequence to the published sequence, most of the nucleotides can be made to match up with minimal futzing. So how do I say that? At present, we are saying: "In all four cases, the inserts were found to contain sequences homologous to human and mouse lck..." but one of my grad students points out that the word homologous is incorrect, since it represents an inference about evolution rather than a statement of fact. My objection to replacing the word "homologous" with the word "similar" is that is gives the impression that the sequences don't match all that well. My objection to replacing the word "homologous" with the word "identical" is that the sequences are not identical. My objection to replacing the word "homologous" with the words "##% identical" is that I would need four different numbers for the four different tumors, making the sentence practically unreadable. I guess if "similar" is the only correct word in this context, I could live with that. However, since I believe that we are dealing with homologous sequences, is the word "homologous" really incorrect? (I understand that "##% homologous" is always wrong; sequences are either homologous or they are not.) Email me if you wish, but I suspect others may wonder about this as well and that a discussion might be a "good thing". -- David Steffen Department of Cell Biology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston TX 77030 Telephone = (713) 798-6655, FAX = (713) 790-0545 Internet = steffen@mbir.bcm.tmc.edu