Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!keele!nott-cs!ucl-cs!news From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: AI - the real problem Message-ID: <1413@ucl-cs.uucp> Date: 4 Feb 91 18:44:15 GMT Sender: news@cs.ucl.ac.uk Lines: 32 In article <22951@well.sf.ca.us>, nagle@well.sf.ca.us (John Nagle) said >> There is a bit of hubris in trying to address human-level intelligence >> from our present level of ignorance. We now understand that just getting an >> ant though a minute of life is hard. Walking over rough ground is hard. >> Avoiding obstacles is hard. Picking up things is hard. Piling things up >> is hard. General ant level competence is very hard. ``Ignorance is in the mind of the beholder.'' >> We will not achieve lizard-level competence until we have ant-level >> competence well in hand. We will not achieve rodent-level competence >> until we have lizard-level competence. And we will not achieve primate-level >> competence until we can build rodent-level brains. And until we have achieved >> primate-level competence, we will not successfully build a general-purpose >> human-level AI. ``Intelligence is in the mind of the beholder.'' I agree with John Nagle, I am not attacking him. However, animal/human/rock intelligence is not a linear process running parallel to evolution. ``Satori: When the learning curve becomes a step function.'' I just think that we have a long way to go to catch up the dolphins. ``So long and thanks for all the fish.'' Gordon Joly +44 71 387 7050 ext 3716 Internet: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ...!{uunet,ukc}!ucl-cs!G.Joly Computer Science, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT