Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!emory!att!linac!midway!gargoyle!chinet!laird From: laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Hayes Microcomputer lawsuit??? Message-ID: <1991Feb05.115506.13471@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 5 Feb 91 11:55:06 GMT References: <3759.27a62207@hayes.uucp> <83693@sgi.sgi.com> <1991Feb03.184636.16688@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX Lines: 33 In article <1991Feb03.184636.16688@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: >In article <83693@sgi.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes: >>In article <3759.27a62207@hayes.uucp>, tnixon@hayes.uucp writes: >>> ... One such >>> patent [...]relates to the guard time associated with the "+++" >>> escape sequence used to change the modem from online to command >>> state. >> >>>... >>It is strange and unfortunate that such an obvious idea should have a >>defendable patent. Yes, the idea is obvious even before reading a Hayes >>(compatible) manual. >Yes, it is. While the concept of claiming intellectual property rights in the escape sequence seems trivial to me too, I have to say that 'obvious' ideas are often so simple only after they have been (1) reduced to practice and (2) explained to the masses. I have not seen the patent or an abstract, but if the subject matter were, for instance, storing a user-selectable value for the guard time in an internal register, then that might cross the very fine line between "methods" which are not patentable and "processes" which are. There is nothing more abhorrent than a patent suit, but it serves to reward the truly inventive among us (that is, if they teamed up with the truly litigious). On the whole, society benefits from such an action, but I cannot help but hope that the defendants win reversal on appeal in this case. -- Laird J. Heal The Usenet is dead! Here: laird@chinet.chi.il.us Long Live the Usenet!