Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!mintaka!think.com!spool2.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!ub!dsinc!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David Tamkin) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: N0X/N1X Prefixes -- First to Change 1+7D to 7D? Message-ID: <16533@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 02:41:27 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 38 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 78, Message 4 of 5 Steven Minneman wrote in volume 11, issue 66: SM> In article <15921@accuvax.nwu.edu> cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) writes: CM> ...as far as I can tell, is the first to prepare for such by CM> removing the 1+ from toll calls within it SM> And in the 415 area, we have never had to use 1+7D. Patrick Townson commented: PT> [Moderator's Note: Nor did we in Chicago until a few years ago. For PT> however long we dialed seven digits for anything in the old 312 area, PT> and ten digits for anything else. In order to allow the use of PT> prefixes which 'look like area codes' they started using 1+ here. PAT] We still don't use 1+7D in Chicago. It's 1+10D that we had to start using in 1982, only for inter-NPA calls, when we were preparing for N [01] X prefixes. We've never dialed 1+7D here. Before October 1, 1982, Illinois Bell tolerated 1+10D; then they started requiring it. Centel recommended it even before then and has required it since, except for calls to area code 815, on which Centel accepts 10D for some reason, even though they insist on 1+10D for calls between 312 and 708. David Tamkin Box 7002 Des Plaines IL 60018-7002 708 518 6769 312 693 0591 MCI Mail: 426-1818 GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com [Moderator's Note: In Chicago itself we never dialed 1+7D, but some of the outlying suburbs did. Antioch comes to mind, but then they could dial 396-xxxx without the 414 on the front. The rest of us couldn't. And interestingly enough, Americtech Mobile still allows 10-D calls between 708 <==> 312 <==> 815, or you can go 1+ 10-D if that is your pleasure. PAT]