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Subject: ANS FORTH TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
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Date: 30 Jan 91 12:14:29 GMT
Organization: (n.) to be organized.  But that's not important right now.
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 Date: 01-28-91 (09:10)              Number: 1007 of 1007 (Echo)
   To: B.RODRIGUEZ2 [BRAD]           Refer#: 991
 From: JACK WOEHR                      Read: NO
 Subj: ANS FORTH TECHNICAL COMMI     Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
 Conf: FORTH (58)                 Read Type: GENERAL (+)

 -> I have to agree with David Petty's observation that the TC has
 -> avoided both objectivity and consistency in its decision criteria.
 ->

         Consistency, perhaps: the voting body changes composition
 each meeting. But the charge of "avoiding objectivity" is ad hominem.
 It doesn't really *say* anything. What objectivity? What is objectivity,
 agreeing with you, perhaps?

 -> As part of the residue of the Detroit meeting, I have a list of
 -> arguments which (when I offered them) were rejected as insufficient,
 -> but which were later used without dispute by others on the TSC.

         I missed Detroit, so along with your other readers, I am
 puzzled what the above paragraph means. What arguments, on what
 subjects, did you offer, and how were these arguments later used
 without dispute by others? Details, please!

 -> And -- perhaps the issue which has most damned the TC in my eyes --
 -> when I proposed a set of quantifiable, objective decision criteria to
 -> the TC, they were rejected: not because I had proposed the wrong
 -> criteria (which I offered to change), but because the TC OBJECTED TO
 -> HAVING TO MEET ANY CRITERIA AT ALL.

         Oh, Brad, this has to be pure flame. The TC has *many* criteria
 it is pledged to meet. If you can give us a magic formula that we can
 follow by rote to manufacture the perfect standard, PLEASE hand it
 over and we will stand on our heads and chant it WILLINGLY, or whatever.

         =jax= "dpANS in 2Q91!"

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