Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!uunet!motcid!ellis From: ellis@motcid.UUCP (John T Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Social Security numbers Message-ID: <4611@orchid12.UUCP> Date: 31 Jan 91 13:56:25 GMT Reply-To: motcid!ellis@chg.mcd.mot.com (John T Ellis) Organization: Motorola Inc. - Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL 60004 Lines: 51 Keywords: In article <29736@mimsy.umd.edu> dalamb@umiacs.umd.edu (David Lamb) writes: >The recent discussions about privacy prompt this question: >Use of a single "person identifier" like social security number make it >easier to correlate different computer databases, which might lead to >more violations of privacy. [text deleted] >Is it legal for all these people to do this? Did somebody change the >rules, or was my "vague memory" always wrong? is anyone else upset about >this? About two years ago, I wrote a report on social security number fraud and the computer. The report basically outlined the "Big Brother" syndrom that was becoming more and more prevalent as the social security number became the most popular key field for computer databases. From my investigation, the following information came to light. 1. The social security number was (and still is) intended to be used by only the social security office. 2. With the advent of the computer, the IRS realized that with one number, record keeping was made simpler. They therefore petitioned congress and received permission to begin requiring the SS# on all forms. This then led to the banking industry and employers using it. Note: Before the use of the SS# as the taxpayer ID, individuals were issued seperate numbers for this purpose. 3. Currently, it is NOT illegal for anyone to ask you for your SS#. However, it IS illegal for them to refuse you service if you do not give it to them. If you encounter any problems with this, you are asked to contact the nearest SS office and report the offence. Personally, I am frightened by the present and future prospects of the use and abuse of the SS#. However, in order to live in today's society, (ie. use the services available) I must allow my SS# to be used. Therefore, I am very discriminate with how I use this number. I have removed the number from my Drivers License and checks. I no longer write down the number for credit card companies, check cashing cards or other "consumer" services. Rather, I give them a credit card number. Hope this helps. -- -------------------------------+------------------------------------------------ John T. Ellis 708-632-7857 | To YOU I'm an atheist; Motorola Cellular | To GOD I'm the Loyal Opposition. motcid!ellis@chg.mcd.mot.com | -- Woody Allen