Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!ists!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!samsung!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!rogue.llnl.gov!oberman From: oberman@rogue.llnl.gov Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Caller ID: Is comp.dcom.telecom biased? Message-ID: <1991Jan29.092504.1@rogue.llnl.gov> Date: 29 Jan 91 16:25:04 GMT References: <15377@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: rogue.llnl.gov In article <15377@milton.u.washington.edu>, cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes: > Is this person biased, or what? Would you want the moderators of all > of the conferences that handle controversial topics popping off like > this, making those who hold opposing points of view feel foolish? > As a moderator, I'm offended. As someone with a regard for privacy > interests, I'm alarmed, because this newsgroup, comp.dcom.telecom, > wields a lot of informational power. But what to do about this? > I don't recall Pat ever denying his biasses. People with a truely open mind also have truely empty ones. I have never seen signs that Pat biases the group according to his biases, so I don't see a problem. In fact, I look forward to his notes even when I don't agree with them. There is an unmoderated forum, alt.dcom.telecom, set up recently. It does not get much activity. It was set up be someone tired of Pat refusing his posts. However, it looks like the posts never made it to Pat since the person who was trying to post never get the automatic acknowedment of the posts. For whatever reasons, I have never had a post rejected by Pat. Maybe we agree a lot, but certainly not always. And I have seen many postings on CLID on both sides in that forum. Pat has refused ANY postings on Caller ID privacy issues on either side due to the large volume and a new forum was established for the discussion. Postings on implementation of SS7 and CLID continue, often with Pat's comments. R. Kevin Oberman Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Internet: oberman@icdc.llnl.gov (415) 422-6955 Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.