Xref: utzoo misc.consumers:26679 alt.activism:9701 talk.environment:2151 comp.org.eff.talk:1373 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!csrd.uiuc.edu!sp66.csrd.uiuc.edu!midkiff From: midkiff@sp66.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sam Midkiff) Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.activism,talk.environment,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Advertising is bad Keywords: DMA Suppression junk-mail recycling activism Message-ID: <1991Feb6.021812.14291@csrd.uiuc.edu> Date: 6 Feb 91 02:18:12 GMT References: <156215@felix.UUCP> <1991Feb1.054640.1441@cs.ucla.edu> <156606@felix.UUCP> <1991Feb5.192632.20536@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: news@csrd.uiuc.edu (news) Distribution: na Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development Lines: 35 spm2d@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steven P. Miale) writes: >In article <156606@felix.UUCP> asylvain@felix.UUCP (Alvin "the Chipmunk" Sylvain) writes: ... lots of stuff deleted ... >> >>(I say "if it's a good idea", because people are often surprised to find >>out that it's not always a good idea. It frequently happens that reducing >>the price of an item also reduces demand.) >Reducing price reduces demand. Contrary to what EVERY SINGLE ECONOMICS >TEXTBOOK IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND HAS SAID, you have just really stuck >your foot in your mouth. OK, if this is true, then raising prices increases >demand, eh? DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. Actually, for some "luxury" items, price decreases can lead to decreased demand, since part of the reason of owning the item is to show that you can afford such an expensive thing. Also, some people with more money than time will buy the most expensive item under the assumption that it is the best, or at least good enough. And finally, when the price of silver skyrocketed some years ago, demand for silver bullion increased as people tried to get in on a "good thing." When the price began to plummet, demand dropped accordingly - so much so that silver now only sells for about 10% of its peak price. Simple demand/price analysis assumes that people are rational, that they are attempting to maximize their purchasing power, and that their desires are infinite. Although this is often true enough, especially for the majority of products and the majority of consumers, anyone who attempts to apply simple economic laws to *all* economic activity is being, shall I say it?, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. What this has to do with the morality of advertising, I cannot say. Sam Midkiff midkiff@csrd.uiuc.edu