Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wuarchive!zazen!uwvax!galtee.cs.wisc.edu!rose From: rose@galtee.cs.wisc.edu (Scott M. Rose) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 9 Keywords: coherent Message-ID: <1991Feb5.015444.12110@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 5 Feb 91 01:54:44 GMT Sender: news@spool.cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 300 Originator: rose@galtee.cs.wisc.edu Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 9 Mon Feb 4 19:44:50 CST 1991 Today's Topics: Re: Re: Elle 41C Termcap problems are over on my console! uploads to piggy Request for Discussion: comp.os.coherent A better ls Porting Finger v2.0 uploaded to piggy Help on multiply referenced i-node How does one create a directory from within a program? slow mail.. Administrivia: The Coherent Digest is a forum for discussion of the MWC Coherent 3.x operating system. Send submissions to "coherent@cs.wisc.edu" and administrivia to "coherent-reqeust@cs.wisc.edu". Previous issues are archived for anonymous FTP access on piggy.ucsb.edu in the directory "pub/coherent/mail-list". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Jan 91 19:14:18 From: trystro!root@Think.COM (Richard Nickle) To: think!fcsys!coherent Subject: Re: Re: Elle 41C - -->BTW, check out the GNOME editor (a Microemacs-dirivative) at piggy.ucsb.edu. - -->I haven't looked at it yet, but it may be a good alternative. No, it's not a good alternative to Elm, I uploaded as a good alternative to MicroEMACS because it has much better on-line help. It doesn't handle big files though, and it doesn't work with the -A option on cc (if you use it). It's closer to Elle and regular EMACS as far as commands go though. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 91 01:32:03 From: shinobi!engr!shadow (Only the Shadow Knows) To: engr!coherent Subject: Termcap problems are over on my console! Finally found a solution to all my clam, less, rf, and other assorted console display problems! If I define my TERM as h19a instead of ansipc, everything works hunky-dory! I hope this helps others! - -- James E. Ward ...uunet!uark!shinobi!shadow shinobi!shadow@engr.uark.edu Spock: We suffered 23 casualties in that attack, Captain. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 91 03:45:33 From: trystro!root@Think.COM (Richard Nickle) To: think!fcsys!coherent Subject: uploads to piggy I uploaded the following to piggy last night, if anybody is interested, they are in /pub/incoming: comb121.sh.Z screen oriented mailer with smart-host routing fixed some bugs in it, and added the ability to specify which mailbox you want to open with a -f on the command line. gnugo01.Z gnu's version of go gnugo02.Z gnugo03.Z ogre01.Z wargame. destroy the killer super-robot. curses. miles01.Z port of mille bournes. 'rally race' french card game. curses. I'm working on filling up a disk for bob at mwcbbs. I uploaded comb121 to mwcbbs about an hour ago. I'll be mailing him (by surface!) stuff I found on piggy, the above-mentioned, and a couple other things I haven't ported re-checked my ports yet. If you want me to send him anything else and it's not on piggy now, up it and let me know. I'll mail that too. (uh, within the next day or so.) Rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 91 15:00:53 CST From: lark@cat.tivoli.com (Lar Kaufman) To: coherent Subject: Request for Discussion: comp.os.coherent It would be appropriate for me to issue an apology to all of you for not searching hard enough to find the net support group for Coherent before posting my RFD. Sorry. I owe a special thank you to Scott Rose for sorting out communications difficulties between me and Curt Sampson in the hours of confusion when we both issued our proposals for new groups. Especially, I owe thanks to Curt Sampson for shelving his own effort on which he had spent much time and thought to support the proposal for a comp.os.coherent newsgroup. There has been some curiosity and misunderstandings about the requirements for forming a newsgroup in the formal hierarchy (comp.os.* in this case). For those who are interested, look for a document entitled GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION, which is posted in news.announce.newusers, news.groups, and news.admin. The current guideline in effect is the version ammended Sept. 6, 1990, by Eliot Lear. The discussion period continues for 30 days, and should be substantially restricted to news.groups. Of course, you can and should notify others you wish to support the effort, via email. The announcement was sent out to all groups I thought may contain a readership that would be interested in comp.os.coherent. The discussion on news.groups should focus on whether there should be such a newsgroup, what it should be titled, and whether it should be moderated. NOTE: Any discussion of these issues should take place in news.group in accordance with the guideline. Please note that voting does not take place until a formal Call for Votes is issued, which must closely follow the RFD. If you know people that won't get an announcement of the Call for Votes, feel free to notify me and I will send email to those people to make sure they get a chance to vote. Votes must be emailed, not posted to a newsgroup, in order to be counted, and proxy votes are not counted. Thus, to vote on this issue, you must simply have a valid email address. An individual must not vote more than once. There are specifics you must follow in voting, but I will detail those in the call for votes. Please note that in order for this proposal to pass, only two conditions must be met: * the Yes/Create votes must equal at least 2/3 of the votes * the number of Yes votes must exceed the number of No votes by at least 100. Therefore, if you can get a few friends to vote For in addition to yourself, I am confident that we will successfully create comp.os.coherent. - -lar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 91 1:21:38 CST From: David Fenyes To: coherent Subject: A better ls Hello, I've dumped an 'ls' on piggy.ucsb.edu in /pub/incoming. This 'ls' is about as good as GNU ls, but doesn't run out of memory on HUGE directories. It has many more features than Coherent /bin/ls, is about the same size, and is 2-4 times faster for moderate sized or larger directories, although somewhat slower for tiny directories. The default output is multi-column to a tty and single column to a pipe, although if named ll, gives long listing, and other name/function links. (read the docs). Environment variables control various aspects of its behavior. The indigenous ls has been one of the most annoying features of Coherent; I'll bet many of you will prefer this one. You'll also need the ndir library. Good luck, David. - -- David Fenyes dfenyes@thesis1.hsch.utexas.edu University of Texas Medical School Houston, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Fri Feb 1 21:58:11 1991 From: Bill Henning To: coherent Subject: Porting Well, I've been trying to port a few programs to Coherent, and I thought I'd share some of my experiences. I am quite happy with my purchase. It is an excellent value. Incidentally, I think comp.os.coherent is an excellent idea, and I will vote accordingly. Ports in progress: I have previously mentioned attempting to port SC 4.1 (a small spreadsheet) to Coherent, but that port attempt failed due to memory limitations. I was however able to retreive an older version, and it appears to work. Unfortunately, none of the TERM entries I tried work well. When the port is stable I'll post it to piggy. I have also tried to port a visual calendar/appointment scheduler called 'month'. It is up and running, however it exhibits the same TERMCAP related problems as SC. When these problems are resolved, I'll post it to piggy. I am also trying to port a chess game, but that has a problem with wscan - when it executes scanw("%d",&response_time) it dumps core with a "Bad format in scanf" error message. Problems: I also have problems with using TERM=h19a - it messes up vi and less as well. In particular, going up with the cursor above the topmost line displays the proper new top line, but does not scroll the rest of the display down. I'll take a quick look to see if there is an easy way to fix the problem. Clam bug - 'pr file | epson &' then 'ls -l' clams up that shell. Compress complains that it cannot write to /dev/ram1... a real pain. I checked the ownership of /dev/ram1 and it was sys ... sys. Logging in as root I still got the same error message. I was able to mount /dev/ram0 without any problems, what's going on? I can't be out of memory, I have 4Mb in this box! Suggestions: We need an ANSII compiler. Quite a few sources that would appear to port use ANSII style function declarations. Now I am quite capable of converting such sources back to K&R style declarations, but I'd prefer ANSII compliance from the compiler itself. The most urgent needs (from my point of view) are function prototypes and new-style function declarations. We need 'nice' and 'nohup'. It would be 'nice' to be able to nice background print jobs, long tar's, compress, etc. ...Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Feb 91 02:41:47 -0600 From: "Predrag S. Bundalo" To: coherent Subject: Finger v2.0 uploaded to piggy I have just uploaded "finger20.tar.Z", a STANDALONE finger program to /pub/incoming on piggy. Documentation and installation notes are included. Users of romfinger version 1.0 should upgrade to this version as it is much faster and is not a who filter, but a standalone finger implementation as stated above. Cheers, -Pred ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 91 01:36:01 From: mhm!root@uop.uop.edu (Mohd H. Misnan) To: uop!coherent Subject: Help on multiply referenced i-node Hi, I have a problem with my Coherent tar. When I un-tared clam141.tar using original Coherent tar, my directory was messed up by multiply referenced directory i-node. I know, I should use gtar instead of tar, but who know this will happen to me. My question is, how to delete or work around this problem. I tried to remove the whole directories which have the same i-node, but still it won't work, my HD stop spinning when I tried this and it was time to reboot. Any idea on how to delete or remove it? Thanks in advance. Hamid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 91 17:43:25 CST From: Scott Rose To: coherent Subject: How does one create a directory from within a program? I've searched the list of system calls over and over, but I can't seem to find a way to create a directory from within a program other than system("mkdir fred"); But, if mkdir(1) can do it, WHY CAN'T I? ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 91 18:15:02 From: gbdata!gclark@uunet.UU.NET (Gary Clark) To: coherent Subject: slow mail.. Can someone PLEASE take a look at the renews in bsnews and get that compress and batch working. I can't really follow the flow the program.. Gary ------------------------------ End of Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 9 *************************************** -- Scott Rose rose@cs.wisc.edu (608) 238-3801