Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!gatech!psuvax1!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: Re: -iconic option Message-ID: <5601@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 30 Jan 91 19:02:58 GMT References: Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 26 >> One of the more useful things about it, from my perspective, is that >> it does not expose X overly much. Is that a case of "it doesn't require me to do X-specific stuff", or "it doesn't *permit* me to do X-specific stuff"? There's no way to do some things in Andrew that can be done in X *and* in some other window systems atop which it might be placed (you can't ring the display station's bell, you can't say "please map the 'left arrow' key into the following procedure" - yes, you can bind something to the H19 escape sequence that emerges from the "im" layer, but I don't know of any way offhand to, say, make a VTXXX-emulating "tm", 'cuz the arrow keys get translated to H19 escape sequences at a fairly low level - etc.). >One of those useful things is of course the inability to cut/paste >> between X and Andrew applications without playing special tricks ?? :-( What sort of problems have you seen? There was a bug in the handling of large cuts&pastes due to not handling the ICCCM INCR property stuff correctly, but that got fixed in PL9; when I was doing the fix, I managed to do cuts and pastes between "ez", "textedit" (yes, that *is* an X application, now), and "xedit" - I did have to cook up some translations for "xedit", in order to get it to use the clipboard, but that was more of a problem for XView applications such as "textedit" rather than for Andrew.