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From: sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: comp.std.internat
Subject: Re: Latin-1 and the French language
Keywords: ISO 8859-1, Latin-1
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Date: 4 Feb 91 14:00:24 GMT
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In article <728@castor.linkoping.telesoft.se> ath@linkoping.telesoft.se (Anders Thulin) writes:

>If anyone out there has any authoritative info about the curious
>letter lower case y with dieresis - what language? why no upper-case
>form in the Latin tables? - I would be very interested.
>
>-- 
>Anders Thulin       ath@linkoping.telesoft.se 
>Telesoft Europe AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden

Dutch has a lower case y with a dieresis ; spelled as ij when the character
is not available to the printer. For instance, Dijkstra (of structured
programming fame) has seven letters in his surname. Really.
There is no special capital letter ; printers use IJ. But NOTE: when
capitalized at the beginning of a word or sentence, it must be spelled IJ :
Ij is *wrong*. (All non-Dutch atlases show the lake of Ijsselmeer and the
city of Ijmuiden, while the real names are IJsselmeer and IJmuiden.) For
computerized typesetting it would therefore be easier to use a code for
capital IJ as well.
In the dictionaries, the character is collated as if spelled i-j ; i.e.,
*bijl* comes between *big* and *bikken*. But in phone books it is usually
lumped with y ; there are too many people called Meijer as well as Meyer.

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052  (904) 644-7045