Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!tamuts!n177ac From: n177ac@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum? Message-ID: <11824@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 5 Feb 91 23:08:22 GMT References: <1991Feb1.160317.27931@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <7709@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1991Feb5.220132.21422@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 36 In article <1991Feb5.220132.21422@Neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (The Ghost Who Walks) writes: >peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > >>In article <1991Feb1.160317.27931@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@eecae.uucp (Danny Griffin) writes: >>> Commodore will offer 2 models of the machine. The 3000UX-B, which retails >>> ... >>OK, everyone who was telling me "sure, it'll be priced to beat the NeXT"... >>how are they gonna sell this sucker at this price point? > > Ha ha ha... Yeah, just what I was thinking Peter. If you really >want a laugh, you should have kept archives of all the A3000UX >messages about two to three months ago... Isn't it strange how all >that pre-release "price" information was SO FAR OFF? Remember the >Byte article for "approx $4000"? > The last figure I heard was $5k for an 8MB/100MB model. That's not too far off from the $5499 mark for the 4MB/100MB list price. As for how they're gonna sell it against an 040 NeXT at $5k, I'd imagine they'll push the fact that the 3000 has EXPANSION capability, COLOR, an ACCEPTED version of UNIX (NeXT's Mach implementation is apparently nonstandard enough to cause lots of porting agony), a second operating system (AmigaOS), and a system architecture that can still perform well with an 030 (030 NeXTs are slugglish, to put it mildly). The NeXT has bundled apps and built-in Ethernet, but some people would question the value of the complete works of Shakespeare on a low-end workstation. (:personal_opinion. I think both the NeXT and the 3000 are good values, but I'd be willing to bet the 3000 gets wider acceptance in less time than the NeXT, due primarily to its System V operating system and the style-without-substance perception of the NeXT:personal_opinion_off) --Daryl Biberdorf, n177ac@tamuts.tamu.edu