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From: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna)
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Subject: Re: GadTools functionality
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Date: 30 Jan 91 18:11:45 GMT
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In article <MWM.91Jan29150653@raven.pa.dec.com> mwm@pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes:
>This is exactly the problem - using GadTools is harder than using the
>stuff I've already got, and the two don't intermix - because of
>limitations in GadTools.

Standard problem.  Anything you write yourself and/or already use tends to
be easier than something new.  Anything it does better or different than
the new thing seems (and sometimes is) harder in the new thing.
Things that are simple in the new way and complex in the old way but
whose procedure you know by wrote (or by cut-and-paste) don't seem helped
by the new way.  But lots of people don't have a pool of routines to draw from.

>As I pointed out the first time around, I didn't have the autodocs
>then. You didn't "it'll be fixed;", you said "use windows instead."

You must have had the prototypes to get anywhere;  they also have
the requester parameter.

>Fine - how about the relative placement gadgets? You told me "They're
>not adequate". Once again - no indication of future plans, and I don't
>recall seeing a flag (even tagged as unimplemented). Last time around,
>I didn't press the matter. Ditto for some facility to move the gadgets
>after they've been created.

Relative gadgets are both hard to support and insufficient.  How do
you make a row of three buttons, evenly spaced?   The left one would
be absolutely positioned, the right one would be GRELRIGHT, and the
middle one is, um, GRELRIGHT/2?

Moving gadgets are hard, too.  Tags are easy to add afterwards.
That's their biggest attraction.

>	<mike

     Peter
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