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From: manes@vger.nsu.edu ((Mark D. Manes), Norfolk State University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Non-Disclosure - How about respecting it?
Message-ID: <572.27a7dea0@vger.nsu.edu>
Date: 31 Jan 91 13:08:48 GMT
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In article <1991Jan30.205801.8210@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
> Article-I.D.: cunixf.1991Jan30.205801.8210
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> In article <58779.665251609@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca> rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:
>>In a message posted on 29 Jan 91 22:48:23 GMT,
>>es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) wrote:
>>ES>	However, what specifically shouldn't we be talking about
>>ES>that we are? Everything that is currently in 2.0 or Unix is free
>>
> 
>>Kickit: A program only usefull if you are a developer (and are
>>thus supported) or if you have *PIRATED* the ROM image from a
>>Developer that should (IMHO) be SHOT!
> 
>>KS/WB 2.0 version greater than the 2.02 package (Nothing else has
>>been made available to users - I have heard roomers of
>>Dealerships installing Developer Test versions on People's
>>machines).
> 
> 	It isn't like I'm giving away the kickit/kick... or 2.04
> programs themselves. Does mentioning that kickit exists, or
> describing a bug in 2.04 in ANY way infringe on CBM's
> competitiveness? Perhaps in the wording of the contract they are

That is not yours to determine.  That is Commodores decision.  
Non-disclosure means at least to me, "not to talk about it".  
Commodore has provided a provision that when it is general
knowledge or announced by Commodore discussions can be had.
I think that the meaning of non-disclosure is clear.  
In my opinion it does not mean "leak" information and 
then claim it is "public knowledge".

Further by talking about it in public (even if you are not
giving it away) makes those users who don't have it, seek
it out.  That causes a support nightmare I would imagine
for Commodore.  It sure would make me want to stop releasing
"beta test" copies to the "registered" community.
 
I am not accusing you of anything Ethan, just stating that
if the developers program is mis-used it is likely to
dissappear.  I would hate to see that happen just because
there are certain individuals that want to "honk" and say
"look-ee at what I got"
 
Further, discussions of bugs in un-released material should 
only be done by official means, and that too is documented.

> unacceptable to mention the existence of, but at least from my
> perspective they have been mentioned by so many other people that
> it is a moot point, and the agreement is invalid at that point
> anyway.
> 	Actually, I'm not even supposed to say when I'm allowed
> to say things. 8-)
> 

Then don't! :-)

>>---
>>  Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else.
>>  Russell McOrmond   rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca   {tigris,alzabo,...}!atronx!rwm 
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> 
> 	-- Ethan
> 

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