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From: giovin@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RE>Re- The Old Octo-RAM card: EPROM burner
Message-ID: <12279.27a97c70@ecs.umass.edu>
Date: 1 Feb 91 14:34:23 GMT
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- In article <43432@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes:
] In article <12199.27a04b8b@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes:
$ In article <43151@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes:
] In article <12183.279f6f30@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes:
= In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes:
> In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes:
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> BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*???
= Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator.

$ Ah, but that only copies EPROMS. You would have to go buy a PCB, draw little
$ traces on it, etch it, drill holes into it, buy your resistors/chips/capacitors
$ and all that other stuff and solder them in... It's not very easy to do it
$ that way. You can copy nintendo cartriges though :-)

] Actually, that's what I meant when I wrote, "... if you're handy..."
] Those resistors, capacitors, etc. could probably be easily obtained.
- Those traces would be pretty hard to draw/photograph or whatever. I like the
- matter duplicator idea better :-)

OK!  OK!  So it would be really tough to pirate anything "worthwhile," I
just remember that he did things with chips a lot and that's what he told
me.  --> i.e. He made copies of lowercase chips back when the II+ was
the latest Apple, and used to modify display chips so that instead of
booting with "APPLE ][," his computer would display his name.  He
probably never made his own boards for the expansion slots.
Rocky