Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!pacbell.com!ames!ucsd!ucrmath!rhyde From: rhyde@ucrmath.ucr.edu (randy hyde) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: TeX Printer(LONG) Message-ID: <11644@ucrmath.ucr.edu> Date: 2 Feb 91 17:21:14 GMT References: <1991Feb1.133159.86253@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> <11641@ucrmath.ucr.edu> <1991Feb2.151519.28432@utstat.uucp> Organization: University of California, Riverside Lines: 50 >>>> First of all, I'm going to be blunt. You don't know what you are talking about. An equation editor ( such as Expressionist, MacEq'n, etc...) + a word processor is no way to prepare mathematical documents of any length. There are all kinds of problems to do with referencing, proofing, equation numbering,etc...INLINE equations. <<<< Gee, I've written MANY technical articles on my Mac and PC using these products. I found them MUCH easier to use than TeX. Clearly someone who is very familiar with TeX and not so familiar with other products (or vice versa, for that matter) may scoff at the use of one or the other as a "true" technical word processor. My experience with people's attitudes on the subject is "whatever you learn first, you stick with." >>> Putting TeX onto the GS is feasible and is a worthwhile venture. TeX is free( EXP and MathWriter are in the $400 range). <<< You didn't find me in disagreement with this assessment. I hope the result is fast enough to be practical (this is more a problem with GS software development tools rather than TeX). >>>> Sorry to come across in such a harsh tone, but people who keep bringing up the Mac and the PC as alternatives to workstations are just fooling themselves. At the moment, they are simply not there software wise, OS wise,etc...They are no more useful than a GS, Amiga, ST, etc... The PC and the Mac are business oriented computers. They gave up on higher education some time ago. <<< >> Sorry to come across Why should you be any different than anyone else around here?!? As to the comment concerning Macs vs. Workstations, I use a Sun Sparcstation, a 486, a 386, a Mac IIfx, and a GS (among other, lesser machines). I use the Mac the most, the 80x86 machines next, the Sparc third, and the GS fourth. I'm not a total UNIX weenie (I don't run X with 10 tasks going at once, for example), I use UNIX to get simple tasks accomplished. Perhaps I'm lazy, but I much prefer the Mac and the PCs because they're some much easier to use. As for TeX, I piss off a lot of my students each quarter because I make them learn it in order to submit their lab reports and homework assignments. If we had FrameMaker on the Suns I'd probably switch to that. I've got nothing against TeX personally, it's just that FrameMaker would be easier to teach and use than TeX by freshmen and sophomores. *** Randy Hyde