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From: mjs@hpfcso.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Questions, things for sale
Message-ID: <7340074@hpfcso.HP.COM>
Date: 1 Feb 91 19:07:28 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
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>>It's also probaly the most powerful sequencer bar none.  The only 
>>thing I would not recommend it for is if you want to do a lot of time 
>>signature changes. I don't but it doesn't look as flexible as it 
>>should (any comments out there?).

Back then I responded:

>I have had no problem with them.  There are various gotchas alluded to in the
>manula, but in my opinion, they are obvious, and the manual gives them far too
>much attention, making it look like they are difficult to deal with when in
>fact it is trivial.  The problems have do do with offsets in the arrange list,
>and if you're doing notation, you probably aren't using arrange mode anyhow.

Now I've changed my tune slightly (no pun intended).

I am trying to put together a songbook, and would like to keep the individual
songs in one .SON file, so I can control formatting et al globally.  I had
planned to go with one song per pattern, theoretically giving me 99 songs.

But I'm having trouble getting the time signature changes or double/repeat bar
lines for each song to be independent.  Because they are global to the song and
not to the pattern, time signature changes or double/repeat bar line markings
in one pattern affect all the other ones.  So I turn on Arrange Mode, and
Global Positions, so now I can get independent settings for each line of the
arrange list, but I can't get all 99 patterns in an arrange list.  Another
really gross option would be to start each pattern "n" at bar "n"*100.

I thought of storing each song as a pattern, so I could keep the formatting
settings global in the .SON file, but this shouldn't do any good, since I would
assume the time signature changes and bar lines markings would not be saved as
part of the pattern, but rather as part of the song.  I suppose I should check
this out, though.

Does anyone else have clever workarounds for this?  Kevin, did you run into
this when you were trying to do your book on Notator?

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Marc Sabatella (marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com)
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