Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Jake-S From: Jake-S@cup.portal.com (Jake G Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: RE: Copying ROMS to RAM Message-ID: <38750@cup.portal.com> Date: 2 Feb 91 01:03:26 GMT References: <3336@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 33 Bob Peraino gives some rather valid (IMHO) arguments for copying ROM cards that a user owns into his own RAM for use with other ROM images that he owns. I'd like to add at least one other point to this argument. In the case of CMT cards, they stipulate in their documentation that the pins on the cards tend to wear over time, and that plugging and unplugging should be kept to a minimum. This is obviously true for the HP cards as well (although I might speculate that HP's cards may be a bit more robust - who really knows for sure?). Therefore, I definitely do not want to be plugging and unplugging my cards every few minutes. If I own 4 32K cards, I think I have a right to have all 4 of them in my machine at once in port 2 while my 128K RAM card is in port one. At the Las Vegas meeting, when the Sparcom folks talked about their Personal Information Manager card, I brought this issue up specifically (and Joe Horn followed it up with some poignant questions to the speakers). I happen to own a Casio 7500 BOSS organizer, which I keep in my pocket just about all the time. When I heard about the "PIM" card from Sparcom, I figured that I could retire the BOSS and keep the data in the HP48 so I wouldnt have to carry two machines around. But the PIM card functions go away when the card is unplugged (except, of course, for the alarms which stay in RAM in the HP48), and I need my port 2 for *all* the ROM cards I own. The Sparcom people had no good solution to this dilemma. I purposely did NOT suggest copying the PIM card into RAM, hoping that they would have a creative solution that I did not think of. They did not, only saying that "we agree, it's a problem." They DID get upset when Joe asked them point blank if they'd have objection to copying the PIM card that one owned , into his RAM, citing copyright problems. Paul Hubbert spoke up at that moment, mentioning that all the PC software vendors (who sell products for far more money than Sparcom cards) all recommend copying their products on to the user's hard drive. Well, my "hard drive" on my HP48 at the moment happens to be a CMT EEPROM card. I see no problems with using it as such, since I bought the ROM cards in the first place. Jake Schwartz