Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!spot.Colorado.EDU!frechett From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: HP48 Internals, etc Message-ID: <1991Feb5.020015.14389@csn.org> Date: 5 Feb 91 02:00:15 GMT References: <38752@cup.portal.com> <1510@fs1.ee.ubc.ca> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 47 Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu In article <1510@fs1.ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@fs1.ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes: =+I disagree. There is absolutely no reason to have ROM dumps of all the =+versions, nor any reason to write software that is downward compatible =+with the A, B, and C ROMS. HP has a generous upgrade policy for those =+versions, so only a few die-hards should be left with the old ones. This simply is not true. There are thousands of A B and C machines out there where the owners haven't a clue that their hp has bugs. Remember, that we as users of usenet have a distinct advantage in that we get information from various sources all over the world and in the case of the hp48sx we get information directly from HP. I see how many uninformed people there are every time I show one of my demos to a fellow hp48sx owner. Out of the dozens of hp48sx owners on this campus, I can say (with a margin of 2) that there are only 2 who read comp.sys.handhelds. Most of the people that I see, don't have sub-directories. For me, that is just increadible (I have prolly over 30) but it is more common than not. The moral is, don't EVER forget that most of the world doesn't have usenet and the masses of information that comes with it. BTW, just to be clear about this, the ONLY ways that one can find out that they can upgrade their hps is via only a couple sources. 1. They found a bug that hurt bad, and called hp Tech Support and were told that they could upgrade. 2. Word of mouth. I have told a number of people. (more than 10) 3. Usenet Nobody was sent a notice saying that they could or should upgrade from hp. =+ =+All that is needed is good programming style. Keep in mind that CHIP has This is true for some things BUT if there really is a differnce between the various versions internally then how is one to know what is a "good" programmin style. Machine language doesn't always lend itself to the obvious approach or the correct approach. =+been reasonably well behaved, and has been upward compatible (so far). =+It is non-obvious that this should be the case for a low-level program. =+I think a well written program will remain compatible to all versions. =+ =+Besides, I have an E versoin ROM anyways! I have not dealt with STAR and the other compilers much so far but I can see the need for downward compatiblity. People are going to be discovering what their expensive calculators can do for years to come. ian -- -=Runaway Daemon=-