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From: rob@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert K Shull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Bug on si? (apparent mouse-up loss problem)
Message-ID: <1991Feb5.212059.16392@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>
Date: 5 Feb 91 21:20:59 GMT
References: <1991Jan30.172515.6479@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6494@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <5659@mnetor.UUCP>
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In article <5659@mnetor.UUCP> frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) writes:
>In article <6494@ecs.soton.ac.uk> rdw89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Williams RD) writes:
>)In <1991Jan30.172515.6479@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes:
>)...
>) Seriously though, are there really that many problems with the si, or
>)are the problems described common to all the Mac II range?  I can't
>
>Since you asked...
>I've had my si since last November. It crashes about ten times a day. In
>fact, if I print something, there's a 90% chance the next app I open will
>crash the system. Most of the games I had (on an SE, which practically never
>crashed, with the same set of software) don't work. About half the time when
>I boot the machine, the boot hangs, generally on a disk access (with the only
>scsi device being the Apple internal hard disk, btw). Apple has replaced
>the motherboard, but that had no effect. Does that answer your question :-)

Sounds like it could be a disk problem?

>In summary, there's something seriously wrong here. The new machines are
>excellent in concept, but somewhat weak in execution.

I can't say what's wrong with your machine, other than to say that I don't
see it on my wife's machine :-). I had pre-loaded the cartridge drive on my
Mac II with System 6.0.7 before she received her IIsi, and when it arrived I
simply connected the drive to the IIsi and dragged the System Folder over (I
had, of course, configured the System for both machines). I don't think I've
ever seen a crash on the new machine. Of course, I pre-check new downloads for
compatibility on my Mac II, and find some problems occasionally.
Anyway, I haven't yet seen a program that will run on my Mac II under 6.0.7
and won't run on the IIsi.
The incompatibilities I've seen or heard of are mainly:
(1) Programs that won't run on ANY Mac II series. Extremely common problem
    if you are moving up from a Plus, SE, or earlier. Many old programs
    had serious problems on Mac II's. Games are the absolute worst
    offenders on this. INIT's are a close second.
(2) Programs that won't run under the new Sound Manager added in 6.0.6 (and 
    6.0.7). It's a good time to find this out, since they'll certainly die
    under System 7.0. Again, games seem to have problems with this
(3) Programs that were written to expect an FPU on any Mac II series machine.
    I've never seen this, since her machine came with the NuBus adapter
    installed. (This one's a pet peeve of mine. After all, SysEnvirons was
    included for a reason).
>Frank Kolnick,

	Robert
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Robert K. Shull
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