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Subject: Re: Will pay $200 for Student to Buy Mac
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Date: 2 Feb 91 20:27:30 GMT
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In article <340@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM> dbarnhar@oiscola.UUCP (David C. Barnhart II) writes:
>In article <1991Jan31.031816.5109@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> sharp@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Maurice Sharp) writes:
>>
>>    Paul was not strong enough in his protest. I think what your
>>friend is proposing is not only illegal but immoral. It is people like
>>your friend that could cause students to loose their educational
>>discount.
>>
>
>This is true, but it doesn't excuse your next paragraph.

             
Sure it does.  I seem to recall that Apple requires all members of its
educational consortium to sell at consortium prices only to customers who
sign an agreement.  The agreement states that the purchaser does not intend
to resell the purchased computer equipment.

The original post was a solicitation for some student to defraud Apple
Computer. Seems to me that to do something like this for only $200 is selling
yourself pretty cheap.  Trying to sucker someone into committing fraud for
you for $200 is both immoral and illegal, and indeed, invites more flames
than it has so far received.  My innate desire for poetic justice leads me to
hope that Mark gets a call from a person in a three piece suit who works at a
firm with many names and represents the interests of Apple Computer.

>
>
>>    Students get good prices for two main reaons. One it is good
>>advertising for the company that gives the discount. Two, students do
>>not have much money. Your friend probably works, makes money, has a
>>car. 
>
>Just wait till you get out and have to pay $8,000 or more for a mac,
>and I'll see what you say then.  Of course students don't have much
>money, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us should have to pay
>the OUTRAGEOUS list prices for these machines.  Of course, only a
>legal recourse to this problem is permissible, but the argument that:
>"someone works, makes money, and has a car ==> he can afford to pay 
>full price for a mac" just doesn't hold water.
>

Are you trying to claim that it is immoral for Apple to set its prices the
way it does, and that the actions of the original poster are therefore
justified? This is the same argument that people use to justify pirating
software.  I won't state absolutely that it's not a valid argument, but I
*will* say that I have never seen anyone make it work.

You don't have to pay any prices, 'OUTRAGEOUS' or otherwise.  This would be
the first time I've heard anyone claim that an Apple dealer used strong arm
tactics on them :-).  Seriously, this is a free market economy.  If 'the rest
of us' don't think the machines are worth the price, we won't buy them, and
the law of supply demand will take its toll.


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