Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.wanted:2500 soc.college:6815 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!sprite.Berkeley.EDU!elm From: elm@sprite.Berkeley.EDU (ethan miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,soc.college Subject: Re: Will pay $200 for Student to Buy Mac Message-ID: <1991Feb3.230629.15541@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 3 Feb 91 23:06:29 GMT References: <5606@auspex.auspex.com> <3866@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> <1991Jan31.031816.5109@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <340@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Reply-To: elm@sprite.Berkeley.EDU (ethan miller) Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred Lines: 38 In article <340@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM>, dbarnhar@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM writes: %In article <1991Jan31.031816.5109@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> sharp@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Maurice Sharp) writes: %> Students get good prices for two main reaons. One it is good %>advertising for the company that gives the discount. Two, students do %>not have much money. Your friend probably works, makes money, has a %>car. % %Just wait till you get out and have to pay $8,000 or more for a mac, %and I'll see what you say then. Of course students don't have much %money, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us should have to pay %the OUTRAGEOUS list prices for these machines. Of course, only a %legal recourse to this problem is permissible, but the argument that: %"someone works, makes money, and has a car ==> he can afford to pay %full price for a mac" just doesn't hold water. Apple is legally entitled to place conditions on the sale of the Macintosh. So is every other company. Ford could legally sell you a car with a contract saying that you couldn't resell the car without Ford's permission. This is a perfectly legitimate contract. However, no one would buy a Ford under those conditions (unless, perhaps, they got a big discount). Airlines do this all the time--the ticket is only valid for the person named on the ticket. The airline has the right to confiscate the ticket if you're not the person whose name is on it. This holds for *all* tickets, not just special student tickets. The airlines rarely enforce this for non-special rate tickets, but they are allowed to. In fact, what Apple is doing is *exactly* analogous to what AmEx/NWAir did for the last two years. They gave out vouchers for cheap (around $100) tickets anywhere in the US on Northwest. Only the student could use them. Nobody thought *that* was illegal, so why should what Apple is doing be illegal? ethan -- ================================= ethan miller--cs grad student elm@sprite.berkeley.edu #include {...}!ucbvax!sprite!elm Witty signature line condemned due to major quake damage.