Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!Tomobiki-Cho!mrc From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Should I get a NeXT? Keywords: mac, next Message-ID: <15887@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 6 Feb 91 00:09:08 GMT References: <87442@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <15875@milton.u.washington.edu> <10509@cica.cica.indiana.edu> Sender: news@milton.u.washington.edu Distribution: usa Organization: Mendou Zaibatsu, Tomobiki-Cho, Butsumetsu-Shi Lines: 71 In article <10509@cica.cica.indiana.edu> greg@cica.cica.indiana.edu (Gregory TRAVIS) writes: >If by "proprietary" you >mean "Not the world's biggest keenest standard, like UNIX and X. No one >will write software unless it's for UNIX and X." I don't think either UNIX or X are "keen". But they are there, and are undeniably the path on which academic computing is heading. By "proprietary", I mean in the usual industry use of the word, "proprietary to a particular hardware vendor." >Then try to substitute in: AmigaDOS How many universities or corporations have standardized on AmigaDOS? >Macintosh An OK example, but Macintosh would have eliminated MS-DOS if Apple hadn't been so insistant on preventing a clone market from developing and in charging such exhorbitant prices. >SunTools Dying in favor of X11. >MS-DOS >Windows 3 >PostScript Available on zillions of different hardware platforms. >MVS Got its market share years ago, before the issue came up. >VMS Your one good example. But one on which the writing is on the wall. >TENEX Uh uh. TOPS-20 yes; but Tenex was paid for by the US Government. The TOPS-20 debacle was a major lesson as to why proprietary operating systems were a lose. >If you're implying that NeXT may fold don't hold your breath. I think it is still 50-50. The next couple of years will be critical. >you place far too much importance on the compatibility issue. Which compatibility issue? A box in a distributed systems environment should be compatible with the other boxes in that environment. You can judge for yourself what the compatibility issues are in an environment that is mostly UNIX/X. If you mean the home/work compatibility issue, every person has to judge for themselves. I develop software for a living. A box which is not compatible with my office environment isn't worth spending my money on. Other individuals may not have the same requirements; which is why I offered that as something to consider rather than an explicit requirement. _____ | ____ ___|___ /__ Mark ("Gaijin") Crispin "Gaijin! Gaijin!" _|_|_ -|- || __|__ / / R90/6 pilot, DoD #0105 "Gaijin ha doko?" |_|_|_| |\-++- |===| / / Atheist & Proud "Niichan ha gaijin." --|-- /| |||| |___| /\ (206) 842-2385/543-5762 "Chigau. Omae ha gaijin." /|\ | |/\| _______ / \ FAX: (206) 543-3909 "Iie, boku ha nihonjin." / | \ | |__| / \ / \MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU "Souka. Yappari gaijin!" Hee, dakedo UNIX nanka wo tsukatte, umaku ikanaku temo shiranai yo.