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From: zazula@uazhe0.physics.arizona.edu (RALPH ZAZULA)
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Subject: Re: ymir.claremont.edu sucks!
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Date: 31 Jan 91 02:17:05 GMT
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In article <29734@usc>, ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes...
> 
>It seems the only copy of the most-recent EmTeX distribution (minus
>fonts) in the civilised world is to be found at
>ymir.claremont.edu which is a non-unix ftp server!
> 
>Imagine: you can cd into a directory but not cd .. out of it!!

Hmm...  Sorry, but I got a good laugh or two out of this one...
You are right, it is a VMS machine.  (I in *no* way want to start
an OS war/flame-session, I haven't the time or energy...)
To move up a directory, try "cd [-]"  (without quotes).
Under VMS, directories go by the format DISK:[DIR1.DIR2.DIR3]
(case is ignored). The "-" stands for ".." as is used in
unix and ms-dos and the "." stands for the "/" in unix
and the "\" in ms-dos.  The DISK: portion can be omitted to
move around on the same disk (for example, "cd [-.nextdir]" is
the same as "cd ../nextdir" under unix).

I've been using VMS for a little over 3 years now but I still
took the time out to learn the UNIX commands that I needed to
use the FTP sites I wanted....  ('nuff said...)

>It's pretty buggy, too, it hung up on me serveral times.
> 
>Administrators of ymir.claremont.edu: if you're listening:
>consider moving your machine to Unix!  Only 9 years left to catch
>up with the twentieth century; you can still dump OS/2!!
> 

Is UNIX *the* representitive feature of the 20th century????

>Administrators of terminator.cc.umich.edu: if you're listening:
>couldya please get the latest EmTeX!?
> 
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Ajay Shah, (213)734-3930, ajayshah@usc.edu
>                              The more things change, the more they stay insane.
>_______________________________________________________________________________


Smiles,
Ralph

P.S.  I just bought a UNIX machine 2 days ago (if that matters...)

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