Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!sdrc!cinnet!icc!cbp From: cbp@icc.com (Chris Preston) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: The internet de-mystified Message-ID: <1991Feb1.135645.25877@icc.com> Date: 1 Feb 91 13:56:45 GMT References: <293@farcomp.UUCP> <758@faatcrl.UUCP> Organization: Intercomputer Communications Corp., Cincinnati, OH Lines: 70 In article emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) writes: >In article <758@faatcrl.UUCP> warb@faatcrl.UUCP (Dan Warburton) writes: [various stuff without details or options deleted] Ok, I have looked into this. Some actual details and options are needed here, IMHO, since all that has been mentioned thusfar is generalities. Note in advance that I have no affiliation with either of these organizations, and I am not even a satisified customer yet because I'm trying to find somebody to pay for this: Performance Systems International is running T-1 backbones through various cities throughout the United States. I do not have the list yet, as I have not talked to them in about a month; however, you may contact them at smith@psi.com. The cost in under $1000/year ($225/quarter) to run modems up to 19.2 to local modem lines that *they* will put in on the other end which will connect to their T-1 lines. They also offer full connectivity (if you are in one of their service areas) directly to the Internet, and charge a straight fee without a per packet charge (how it works going across net servers, I have no idea). Again, it depends on whether they are supporting your city/area (though they told me they were expanding by 25 additional cities/areas this year). Uunet also has the same kinds of services, though you will typically have to foot the bill for phoning or having a leased line to them. This *is* more expensive, with a $2/hr connect fee, if you pay the phone, and combination charges on an 800 number depending on day/night rates. They will also do a leased line and act as a gate and charge a flat rate and provide maintenance and installation. In both cases the cost for a full fledged connection to the Internet was well under $20,000, including installation of the imp gate and on site maintenance. The primary restriction, again, is that to gate into/through NSFnet requires R&D, academia or defense contractor work. I have not yet delved into the extent of connectivity this would give one in reaching worthwhile sites as I am otherwise busy at the moment. For more information from Performance Systems International - PSI inc. Suite 1100 Reston, VA 22091 1 800 827-7482 703-620-6651 703-620-4586 uupsi@psi.com info@psi.com smith@psi.com - Dave Smith - helpfull person there For more information from UUNET UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570 Falls Church, VA 22042 +1 703 876 5050 (voice) info@uunet.uu.net leonard@uunet.uu.net - Lori Leonard - helpfull person there cbp --- Of course these are opinions, you silly foooelll. Kurt Waldheim to Saddam Hussein: "Saddam, I knew Hitler, and believe me, you're no Adolf Hitler." Recent Quote - "Were fighting for basic American principles of right and wrong" - George Bush - ok, elect the Immir in '92.