Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: A3000UX - Born to run UNIX SVR4 Message-ID: <5690@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 2 Feb 91 20:51:56 GMT References: <581.27a97594@vger.nsu.edu> Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 29 >1) Whats "openlook" I've seen/used suntools/X11/Openwin (I like Openwin best) > But haven't seen Openlook. OPEN LOOK is a look and feel specification for window system applications and window managers. I assume "Openwin" refers to Sun's Open Windows X11/NeWS stuff; if so, it conforms to the OPEN LOOK L&F specification - it uses the "olwm" window manager (originally developed by Crucible in Santa Cruz, according to the comments in the source, and now presumably maintained by Sun), which is an OPEN LOOK window manager, and the XView and OLIT toolkits, both OPEN LOOK toolkits. XView is a descendant of SunView (which is, in turn, a descendant of SunWindows/"suntools"), and OLIT is an AT&T-developed (originally, although there may be some Sun work in it now) OPEN LOOK "Xt"-based widget set. AT&T also, for some unknown and rather obnoxious reason, seems to want to call some of *their* X11 stuff "OPEN LOOK" - I suspect that refers to the OLIT toolkit and *their* OPEN LOOK window, workspace, and file managers, while "XWIN" refers to their X11 server and lower-level libraries and applications. S5R4 includes, in some sense, X11/NeWS and OPEN LOOK - I think the GUI stuff is a separate part of S5R4 - in that you get the Sun X11/NeWS server (and, I think, the AT&T XWIN server) as part of the source (although you may get it on a separate tape, which you may have to order and even pay for separately), along with the OLIT and XView toolkits and, presumably, AT&T's OPEN LOOK window/workspace/file managers (and, I suspect, the XWIN versions of Xlib and Xt). Given that, Commodore's S5R4 probably includes some amount of that stuff.