Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!William.Wilson From: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Pending Expulsion from NFB Message-ID: <17571@bunker.UUCP> Date: 4 Feb 91 17:16:43 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 59 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13452 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] GP> Do you think that people will believe that you and I GP> didn't coordinate our two messages on this matter? Just GP> think, I almost killed mine. --- Gary, I think it is about time we come clean here and tell the participants a little about yours and my private conversations about this NFB matter, and things expressed in the echo in general... Gary and I, ladies and gentlemen, come from quite different perspectives on most topics discussed here, or at least, originally did! These include things like national party politics, speech software and board programs, and yes, even the NFB! We have, however, both modified our opinions on all these things, largely as a result of what we've read here! The one thing that I think Gary and I have shared from day 1 is that we read the messages quite intently, or at least the ones in the threads that are obviously appropriate for the echo, and we try our best to remain non-bias as we read! Well, I think this is why we are both rather upset that David has chosen to defend the NFB in the manner he has, meaning saying there is an anti NFB tone to the echo, or saying misinformation is being passed on here, etc. I honestly just havn't heard much in the way of a good rebuttal to what at times are very sound questions about the NFB, despite the fact I am listening even closer than ever for one! I am familiar enough with you David, and some of the other NFB members who have participated here, to know that you are capable of discussing problems with the NFB in a good fashion, but in order to do that, you would have to admit to there being problems in the NFB, and frankly, it is beginning to look more and more as if being a loyal Federationist means you just can't do that! David, neither Gary or I are members of the ACB, so indeed, we owe no loyalties in these matters. As a matter of fact, we are members of different national political parties, and yet we've not only been able to discuss issues in which our political parties differ dramatically, we've managed to take a little from each and come out with not only a slightly different opinion on both ends, still friends! Sure David, the Jim Jones analogies and such thrown at the NFB hurt you, I am sure, and you will note that I intentionally don't respond to them, but this is more due to my respect for you and my not wanting to add to your disgruntled feelings than to imply that they are ludicrous! I knew all along that the NFB thread was bound to cause problems for some here, but for sure, it is one of the most appropriate things being discussed here at the moment! If indeed there is "misinformation" being propogated via the echo, point it out, but don't use that claim to avoid answering some of the quite valid questions that have come up concerning the NFB. I, for one, would like to hear some REAL answers to the questions of democracy and such, cause like I said, my ears and mind are still open! Willie ... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org