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From: Walter.Siren@p18.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Siren)
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Subject: Re: Pending Expulsion from NFB
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Date: 4 Feb 91 17:24:38 GMT
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[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DA> Willie, I think to a certain extent we both are making different
 DA> assumptions
 DA> which are widening the distance between our points.  The machines which are
 DA> installed on our behalf are ones where you put in a coin and receive a few
 DA> peanuts or M&M's into your hand directly.  They are not regular candy
 DA> machines
 DA> that dispense a wide variety of pre-packaged candy.

Dave you can say that it is a small part of a vendor's income.
Well, I ran a stand where now one of those machines had been put.
Now remember this, that each person in the building has a certain
amount of money that they can or will spend for those trivia items,
and what goes into those machines go into the pocket of the vending
machine company, and the NFB, and not in the pocket of the vending
stand opperator.  All of those little amounts are what go together
to make up an opperator's income.  I am speaking from personal
experience, and I know how much that can effect an opperator's
income.  if you let one vending company in against the opperator,
as I am sure that the NFB well knows, that opens the door for the
others.  You know, you get a foot in the door, and bye bye.

 DA> You say that I am presumptuous making assumptions about what is a major portion of someone's
 DA> income.  Maybe so, but I find it difficult to believe that this machine
 DA> would
 DA> threaten a blind vendor.  Secondly, every vendor signs an agreement to
 DA> operate
 DA> in a given location which specifies what kinds of activities can go on in

A vending machine is not in business for it's health, if it does
not take in enough money to pay for it's existance, they would
remove it.

 DA> building, other vending machines, etc.  I believe that our machines are
 DA> placed
 DA> and operated by commercial vending machine companies.  They should of
 DA> course go
 DA> through proper channels, and if they haven't, then the machines shopuld be
 DA> removed.  You and others seem to be implying that the NFB is directly going
 DA> in
 DA> and threatening the income of blind vendors.  I don't believe that this is
 DA> the
 DA> case.

Believe it or not.  Naturally you won't believe that the flawless
NFB won't do any wrong, but I am affraid at this time, we have the
evidence that they have.  Whether you want to beleive it or not,
they did not consult the management of that building to put there
machine in, and they were told to remove it, and they thought that
they would be cagy, and put it on another floor, but it still was
discovered, and locked up in a closet.  This particullar opperator
has all vending rights to this building, and no vending machine is
suppose to go in there except through the opperator.

Blame it on the vending companies if you wish, but the NFB is the
one who contracted with those companies, and therefore is
responsible.

As Willie said, if the shoe were on the other foot, the NFB would
be screaming loud, and well they should.

Now, don't tell us that we have misinformation, because we have the
facts, and you should get them also.

               Walter

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