Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews From: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Pending Expulsion from NFB Message-ID: <17701@bunker.UUCP> Date: 5 Feb 91 20:22:49 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 67 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13582 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] DA> I believe that our machines are DA>>> placed DA>>> and operated by commercial vending machine companies. They should of DA>>> course go DA>>> through proper channels, and if they haven't, then the machines shopuld be DA>>> removed. WW> Well, excuse me, but isn't the NFB in the business of exposing WW> unjust laws and rules and fighting against them! How in the WW> world can you use this line of argument to suggest it is fine WW> for the NFB to contract a vending machine in the same building WW> as a blind vending stand operator??? Now you are telling me how I should think and react to an issue. Willie: What are unjust laws and rules. That is a subjective decision. Yes, it would be unfair for anyone to install a full line of vending machines in a building where there was a blind vendor. However, is one gumball type machine unfair? Probably not. Yes, a vendor has the right to expect an even playing field, but it is also unreasonable to expect him/her to have an absolute monopoly on any food activity in the building. Would you have absolutely no coffee made in any office. How about not allowing people to bring in bag lunches. Yes, I am exaggerating a little to make a point, but I also think that the magnitude of the NFB sponsored machines we have been talking about and their impact on a vendor's income. WW> Finally, I know you are WW> upset by the way some people are claiming that you will never WW> say a word contrary to the NFB philosophy, and I have done my WW> best to avoid doing so myself, but holy smoke, don't you see WW> why they would come to that conclusion??? I honestly am not WW> trying to be an anti-NFB person, just as I am trying to not be WW> a pro-ACB person, but at least in my mind, the credibility of WW> the NFB would be increased if just once I saw some questioning WW> of their policy by good, loyal members such as yourself! As WW> soon as I find an organization of over 2 people that I agree WW> 100% with, not only will I become a loyal member, I'll give up WW> all my personal goals just to help accomplish the goals of the WW>Willie, I do think a lot about what the NFB does, and how it does it. I don't agree with everything, but I do agree with much more then I disagree with. Each person has to decide for him/herself what he/she is comfortable and uncomfortable with. I will remain a loyal member as long as I agree with more then I disagree with! I know what the NFB has done for me and for all blind people and I am not willing to give that up. Yes, Jamal disagreed, and he has the right to disagree with the organization. It is my belief, (note that this is not an official NFB opinion, although the President might agree), that Jamal disagreed in ways that were destructive to the organization. You have only heard Jamal's side of the story. There is a history here, it didn't happen overnight. Someone will then say, tell us about it? It is my guess that Mr. Maurer does not wish to drag out past issues and publicly cause problems to Jamal. Some will put a different interpretation on it, saying we are Communists or whatever. So be it. People can always find things to support their beliefs, you and I both. Finally, you of course will never find an organization you will agree with 100 percent, unless you control it absolutely. ... Your Sound Alternative -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews Internet: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org