Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!William.Wilson From: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Agreeing to disagree! Message-ID: <17704@bunker.UUCP> Date: 5 Feb 91 20:23:36 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 54 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13585 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] David, In order to practice what I preach, I won't quote your whole message to me, but basically speaking, you again avoided the major point I was trying to make in my original to you. You say again that you don't consider a single vending machine in the same building as a blind vending stand operator enough of an influence on that operator's income to be worth fighting about, and then further go on to say that there are laws worth fighting about, and ones that don't warrant such attention. Well, as an outsider who has watched this thread intently for quite a while now, in fact, much before Jamal's dismissal, I think I can form at least some sort of opinion on NFB tactics, and for sure, I would guess that if the shoe were on the other foot, the NFB would scream BLOODY MURDER! In fact, the one thing I have sort of admired about the NFB perspective on issues is that they can take something that seems trivial to most people and make it a key goal of the Federation for changing! Yeah, yeah, I know you can justify making the airline thing a primary issue because it "affects the way sighted people view us", but again, this is simply the NFB telling us what sighted people will think of us, and may have nothing to do with reality, so I don't accept that line of argument as valid. In the hard, cold world of reality, whether or not a blind person can sit in the emergency seat of an airplane doesn't affect his or her daily life one bit, yet a vending machine that dispences one candy bar to a person who would otherwise buy it from a blind vending stand operator does affect his or her daily life, even if it is but two bits worth! DA> support the you and I both. Finally, you of course will never DA> find an organization you will agree with 100 percent, unless DA> you control it absolutely. Yes David, that is basically what I said in my message to you, and true, I don't think one should have to agree with an organization 100% before joining it, but David, it is my humble opinion that the NFb is, indeed, 100% controlled, and by either an individual or a couple of individuals! I am pretty sure that has been the claim of the disgruntled ousted members, and by several others here, and frankly, I just havn't seen anything to the contrary posted! We're sort of going full circle here David, and yes, even I am getting a little bored with it now, but all the evidence presented has shown an organization that, if not totally controlled by an individual, it sure as heck is controlled by a very select, and privileged few! I am glad that you and other NFB members see your despot as an enlightened one, but I simply don't! Willie ... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org