Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec DGBT/DBR) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: 3 Observations On Q-Sound - What's going on??? Message-ID: <9329@uwm.edu> Date: 4 Feb 91 16:25:56 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 52 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu I think it's quite safe to assume there never will be any "classical" recordings done with Qsound. Qsound is a gimmick which may or not be successful with commercials and garbage music. I suspect it will go the way of the "hula hoop" and other like momentary cultural oddities. Qsound is a development by Archer Communications, a company in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. It purports to produce "3 dimensional sound" from the normal stereo pair of speakers. It had a public test on a Coke commercial which was broadcast during some major televised sports event about a year ago. Apparently, major film people and audio record producers have shown interest in the technology, and some pop records are being produced now with Qsound encoding. It requires nothing additional by way of equipment at the consumer end. The normal two-channel stereo equipment is supposed to give you the perception. Archer Communications has stirred up a lot of stock market activity. While the whole thing is, technically, a "secret", it is going through patent procedures now and in the course of this, various details have emerged. These were reported in the November 1990 issue (vol.13, no.11) of STEREOPHILE, in the "Update" section - an article on "Canada/UK" by Barry Fox, beginning on page 64. This would be the reference article to send interested people to. Fox reports that Polygram, a Phillips subsidiary and one of the three largest record companies, is "... the first record company in the world to use the new Qsound system...". The technique creates an "exaggerated stereo effect", and listeners vaguely report that it makes music `"sound louder"'. Polygrams committment, relative to its output is tiny, some 20 records over the next 18 months. The idea is related to other techniques used at various times all the way back to the 1970's, which take advantage of the fact that the perception of spatial direction is frequency dependent. To a golden ear, the effects of these various techniques is quite "phasey" and the various implementations (e.g. "Hafler" or "Dynaquad" in the 70's) have never gone caught on. Fox describes the Qsound process in some detail. To summarize briefly, amplitude and phase are varied differentially along the frequency continuum. And so, Fox says that "the effect is thus purely artificial, and arbitrary". Pure trial and error, apparently, are used to find a sought-for position in space for given instruments. If I can state my personal opinions now, the key thing here is the "artificiality" that Fox talks about. Qsound has little to do with the way sounds occur in nature, or in the concert hall. So, if it the technique has any future at all, it will be in specialty use of sound, such as in TV or radio commercials, or in movie special effects, or in pop music gimmicks. And, of course, even there, it is still quite unknown whether it will be successful, i.e. accepted, or even "properly" perceived, by listeners. Qsound is one of very many attempts to produce "startling" auditory effects. I have heard a digital tape using another technique, "holographic" sound, which is generically similar to Qsound in its effects. Once you have been initially impressed by unexpected spatial attributes (in this case, a children's fairy tale broadcast), two things happened for me. One, on second hearing it was irritating, and, two, the "so what" response. And I don't want to hear it again, thanks. This is NOT serious audio.