Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:17371 alt.sex:24566 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!boingo.med.jhu.edu!haven!adm!lhc!nih-csl!helix.nih.gov!young From: young@helix.nih.gov (Jeff Young) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,alt.sex Subject: Re: HELP! Message-ID: <880@nih-csl.nih.gov> Date: 30 Jan 91 16:28:16 GMT References: <1991Jan19.052458.7449@wam.umd.edu> <1991Jan24.041804.13890@wam.umd.edu> <1991Jan26.041208.25354@athena.cs.uga.edu> <1991Jan28.055428.11686@wam.umd.edu> Sender: news@nih-csl.nih.gov Reply-To: young@helix.nih.gov (Jeff Young) Followup-To: sci.electronics Lines: 36 In article <1991Jan28.055428.11686@wam.umd.edu>, mauser@wam.umd.edu (Rich Chandler) writes: |> In article <1991Jan26.041208.25354@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes: |> >"It's not voltage that's dangerous, it's current" |> > |> >But voltage is the force that causes current! |> |> Right, but it depends on how much energy is behind it. (watts, joules, I |> forget my units.) You can take a AAA battery, rig it to a coil that jumps |> the voltage up to 40,000 and give someone quite a shock, but a perfectly |> harmless one (My boss has a gag lighter that does just that). You could also |> hook someone up to the primary coil of you car ignition, also at 40,000 volts |> and give them quite a serious shock. Or you could drop a high tension line |> on them (yet again, 40,000 volts) and really fry them. |> Through the right part of the body, between .1 and .2 amps can cause heart |> failure, and over .2 can kill. (This from a chart in the lab in high school. |> It suprised me too. But think, nerve impulses are in microvolts...) The chart should have gone a lot lower than that, I seem to remember a few biomed courses which cited 10 microamps as enough current to send someones heart into (check me if I'm wrong) fibrulation. That was current originating in the body (ie. a catheter). 10 milliamps from the outside. That's why everything in a hospital room is equipped to deal with small leakage currents - ground fault interrupters. I haven't looked at that stuff in a while but I'm pretty sure about the 10 uamps. |> |> Also remember that there is more involved than just ohm's law. Particularly |> with a battery involved. The effective voltage of a battery drops the more |> current you draw from it. Your average 1.5 volt battery puts out 1.2 when you |> use it, and even less under a high drain. -- jy young@alw.nih.gov