Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: eugene@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Anthrax Message-ID: <1991Feb5.035254.2230@cbnews.att.com> Date: 5 Feb 91 03:52:54 GMT References: <1991Feb4.050514.12630@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA Lines: 51 Approved: military@att.att.com From: eugene@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) In article <1991Feb4.050514.12630@cbnews.att.com> HANK@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL (Hank Nussbacher) writes: >|Problems as a weapon: Can be treated if detected in time (depending >|on form). A vaccine exists (but crude), Iraq probably only has limited >|quantities. Possible contamination if facilities attacked, unknown. >You can thank the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC) in >Atlanta for supplying their Iraqi counterparts with anthrax in 1985. >Iraq did not have any anthrax spores up till then. This is very true. This is partially because you need to have the disease to make vaccines. If one have developing countries (Iraq a developing country?) interested in raising sheep, one wanted this. Any specialist in biological warfare knows that biological technologies are two edged swords. Converting a factory making beer, yogurt, vaccines, baby food, whatever into a weapons plant is not that difficult. That's why this is poor man's warfare. Similar situations exist with other disease vaccines. Vaccines are weapons. Open air military experiments have been conducted around the world. These are acknowledged to some degree in the US and England. Small patches of land and buildings have been contaminated. Any suggestion that these lands or structures might return to a pre-contaminated state is a joke. [A relative had to deal with 5,000 dead sheep in about 1968 in a test which the US Army to this day will refuse to acknowledge (suspected a test of the nerve agent VX), they didn't know what they were dealing with at the time.] It is arguable that the CDC should not keep stores of disease agents (smallpox came up for discussion a few years back). The CDC is not military, it is part of the public health service (but one can see the twin edges). Take one, stick it into an egg or culture, and one has the beginnings of a self-contained weapon. For some disease agents, it is that simple, no big separation plants like for fissionable materials. It is also Dept. of Commerce/State (political) problem. You get into the political here [helping the foe who was once (still is) the foe of thy enemy]. In the past, salt was sown into Hannibal's lands. Let's hope similar incidents using biological warfare agents don't happen. The world is facing a very grim threat. --e. nobuo miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene AMERICA: CHANGE IT OR LOSE IT. The Drake Equation has a co-efficient for "Will we survive our technolgical future?"