Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!pacbell.com!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Ejection seats Message-ID: <1991Feb5.040231.3928@cbnews.att.com> Date: 5 Feb 91 04:02:31 GMT References: <1991Feb4.052511.15316@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 40 Approved: military@att.att.com From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) >From: voder!nsc!dtg.nsc.com!alan@decwrl.dec.com (Alan Hepburn) >There's been talk recently about the injuries of the Allied POWs being >caused by the act of ejecting from their planes... Ejection injuries, up to and including fractured vertebrae, are not at all uncommon. Ejection is a very violent process, undertaken only when the alternative looks even worse. >Some people have >said that some planes are designed such that the pilot must eject through >a closed canopy. It seems to me that a canopy designed to withstand >air pressures of supersonic flight would be extremely difficult to >punch through with a slow-moving seat, or head... The typical approach taken in through-the-canopy-ejection aircraft is to make the thick windshield on the front -- which has to contend with high aerodynamic forces plus birdstrikes -- a separate piece from the relatively thin overhead canopy. This does mean putting a frame of some kind between the two, which obstructs the pilot's vision somewhat. On the other hand, it permits truly instantaneous ejection, while jettisoning the canopy before ejection involves a delay. At low altitude that delay could be fatal. There are various intermediate approaches like putting detonating cord in the canopy so it can be shattered as ejection begins. I believe it is also relatively normal for modern seats to be tall enough that they hit the canopy before the pilot's head does. Don't underestimate the forces involved. >... Can a pilot survive a punch out through a canopy? Yes, definitely. RAF combat aircraft are almost entirely eject-through- canopy types, since the RAF stresses the low-altitude penetration role and demands instantaneous ejection. -- "Maybe we should tell the truth?" | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology "Surely we aren't that desperate yet." | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry