Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!pacbell.com!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bxr307@csc.anu.edu.au Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Ejection seats Message-ID: <1991Feb5.040420.4127@cbnews.att.com> Date: 5 Feb 91 04:04:20 GMT References: <1991Feb4.052511.15316@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 44 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bxr307@csc.anu.edu.au In article <1991Feb4.052511.15316@cbnews.att.com>, voder!nsc!dtg.nsc.com!alan@decwrl.dec.com (Alan Hepburn) writes: > > > From: voder!nsc!dtg.nsc.com!alan@decwrl.dec.com (Alan Hepburn) > > There's been talk recently about the injuries of the Allied POWs being > caused by the act of ejecting from their planes. Some people have > said that some planes are designed such that the pilot must eject through > a closed canopy. It seems to me that a canopy designed to withstand > air pressures of supersonic flight would be extremely difficult to > punch through with a slow-moving seat, or head. Does anyone out there > have any real data on this? Can a pilot survive a punch out through > a canopy? Most modern, high-speed aircraft now have ejector seats which force their way through the canopy. This is necessary because at supersonic speeds there is little time to wait for a canopy to be ejected clear from the aircraft and then have the seat eject a second later. It was deemed faster to simply either destroy the canopy or to break through it. British aircraft are equipped with exploding canopies which have detonating cord moulded into their clear plastic so that when the time to eject comes this is exploded a split second before the seat is ejected from the aircraft, clearing a way for it. The det-cord appears as a thin black line in the canopy and while partially obscuring vision for the pilot it is felt that safety comes first (and anyway the argument runs, the pilot will be focusing on objects in the middle and far distance and the det-cord will be nearly invisible to him). Other nationalities tend to go for "canopy-cutters" atop the head rest of the seat (basically a sharp edged structure which is designed to destroy the canopy by brute force as the seat ejects) as they are uncomfortable with the idea of several pounds of explosive within a few inches of the head of the pilot. As to which is the better system, I think it is mainly horses for courses. Each airforce has its personal preference and believes its better than the other's. Both have disadvantages. The det-cord has no backup if it fails to destroy the canopy. The canopy-cutters have the disadvantage that the canopy has to be made weaker to allow them to work, and as such it is far less resistant to other things, like birdstrike. Brian Ross