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From: kde@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Keith Evans)
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Subject: Re: Re. to Q. on karma, rebirth and effects (Repost)
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Date: 1 Feb 91 01:36:29 GMT
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In <1991Jan19.010313.12136@nas.nasa.gov> chee1a1@jetson.uh.edu writes:

>>From: tilley@ssd.Kodak.Com (David Tilley), Eastman Kodak
>>Date: 5 Jan 91 01:53:19 GMT					  

>>I hate to bring up Karma again and Re-birth again, but I will. This has always
>>been a problem for me.  There being no self, exactly who is reborn? Who has   
>>any karma that goes between lives?  If there is no Self, how can "I" be reborn?
>>There is no "I". Is this "I" no more than a ripple in a stream?   

>>Dave  	   

> (or retribution).  It is not so.  It is more a cause and effect phenomenon.
> On the other hand, effects of all the Karma may not become active.  

The effect from some of the causes one makes may not become manifest
until some future life.
	
>  It is not a soul that passes from one life to another.  At the
>moment of death of a person, the vigngnana (or consciousness) perceives
>according to whatever comes to mind at that last moment.

This is the point where one sees their life flash before their eyes.
One's next life is determined (at the moment of death) by karma created
not only in this life, but also from past lives. One may not be reborn
again for a long time.

>	Therefore,in other 
>terms,  after becoming fully enlightened a person does not perform Karma to
> reap results later.  The moment of death of an enlightened person also differs
> from a worldly person (who has defilements in mind). Because there is no 

Even Buddhas are reborn endlessly throughtout the universe. In the 
Lotus Sutra, Shakyamuni says that he has always been in the world
(since he attained enlightenment, many, amny aeons ago) to lead the 
people towards enlightenment. 
 


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  	         Keith Evans		kde@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov