Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bu.edu!telecom-request From: gordonl@microsoft.UUCP (Gordon LETWIN) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Tandy/Heathkit Message-ID: <74370@bu.edu.bu.edu> Date: 9 Feb 91 21:19:01 GMT Sender: news@bu.edu.bu.edu Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 36 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 105, Message 2 of 7 In article <16709@accuvax.nwu.edu>, Ed_Greenberg@3mail.3com.com writes: > Many people recently got a Heathkit catalog. > It was pitiful. About 30% of the stuff in the catalog was buildable. > The rest was sold assembled-only ... their concept > of building a computer is to plug the boards in. Heath made plenty of mistakes, for sure, but they're not totally responsible for their downfall. Have you looked inside a state of the art computer today? I just examined the motherboard of a Compaq 386/20e with an eye towards diagnosing/repairing it. It seemed that half of the chips were ASIC, they were nearly all .05" lead spaced surface mount, with many many high pin-count (or is it leg-count?) chips. I've had years of experience hacking electronics, but I couldn't remove and replace even one of those high count SM chips without special tools and a lot of practice. Can you imagine regular folks building a board with hundreds of them on it? And then testing -- kit folks have to be able to test and diagnose what they build. You need something like signature analysis to test a board like this ... you can't do it with a voltmeter or even a scope. So Heath is pretty much forced into offering you preassembled and pretested boards, unless you want a computer made from socketed MSI which would be the size of your desk and cost much more than a prebuilt one. gordon letwin (I worked for Heath fifteen years ago, but that doesn't matter...)