Xref: utzoo alt.folklore.computers:9449 comp.lang.apl:613 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!pyramid!infmx!cortesi From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.lang.apl Subject: Re: APL\360 Computers Message-ID: <1991Feb8.003825.15723@informix.com> Date: 8 Feb 91 00:38:25 GMT References: <1226@stca77.stc.oz> Sender: cortesi@informix.com Organization: Informix Software, Inc. Lines: 22 In article <1226@stca77.stc.oz> peter@stca77.stc.oz (Peter Jeremy) writes: >The first commercial APL product was APL\360, released by IBM and >running on the IBM 360 computers. The back of the APL\360 manual >describes a number of useful APL functions supplied in a workspace >with APL\360, including execution times. ...Does anyone know what >system these examples were run on? The product was developed in the IBM Philadelphia Scientific Center. During that era, if memory serves, that site had a 360/75 as its main computing resource. That was a big machine with a fast floating point unit, soon superceded by the 360/85. But the manual, or that appendix of it, might have been prepared elsewhere. The Palo Alto development center, where APL\360 the product was maintained and enhanced, had a 360/50 as its main workhorse. I am a little surprised there is no indication of what machine produced the timings. The wide range of price & performance over the 360 line was one of its advantages, and whoever wrote the manual would have been well aware that different users would see different results depending on the machine in use. I seem to remember APL\360 could be coerced into running (standalone!) on a 360/30, though a 360/40 with DOS or a /50 with OS/MFT was a more typical host.