Xref: utzoo misc.consumers:26856 alt.activism:10030 talk.environment:2185 comp.org.eff.talk:1425 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ucla-cs!maui.cs.ucla.edu!gast From: gast@maui.cs.ucla.edu (David Gast) Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.activism,talk.environment,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Advertising is bad Keywords: DMA Suppression junk-mail recycling activism Message-ID: <1991Feb9.070838.15264@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 9 Feb 91 07:08:38 GMT References: <156215@felix.UUCP> <1991Feb1.054640.1441@cs.ucla.edu> <1991Feb5.153346.6523@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Shemp News Account) Distribution: na Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: maui.cs.ucla.edu In article <1991Feb5.153346.6523@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> hes@ccvr1.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer) writes: >In article <1991Feb1.054640.1441@cs.ucla.edu> gast@maui.cs.ucla.edu (David Gast) writes: >> ... I don't want to >>see any advertising unless it has true informational value. Period. >>Can't remember the last ad I saw that had true information value. > There clearly is a distinction between "consumer" ads and what I'll >call "industry" ads. Yes, the trade press is useful. If you read the trade press for, say, food processing, you can learn what chemicals can be added to deceive the consumer. If you read, the ad for a food using the chemical (or even the label), it will probably say something like 100% healthy, natural, no cholesterol, light, etc. One of the favorite techniques is called ``sophisticated flavors.'' You put stuff like plastic in the food and the consumer is supposed to think he is getting real seeds. ``Caution: This product may contain seeds.'' >gives the 800 number to call for info or to sign up for the seminar. You should never call an 800 number from your home unless you want to the receiver to be able to know your phone number. You should also not call companies with ISDN or caller id, etc. David Gast gast@cs.ucla.edu {uunet,ucbvax,rutgers}!{ucla-cs,cs.ucla.edu}!gast