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From: barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum?
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Date: 6 Feb 91 23:37:14 GMT
References: <1991Feb5.220132.21422@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Feb5.232716.1306@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991Feb6.005537.7551@Neon.Stanford.EDU>
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In article <1991Feb6.005537.7551@Neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (The Ghost Who Walks) writes:
>es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>>	Yeah, so why are you laughing? The LIST price is way up
>>there. The EDUCATIONAL price, which will be near the street
>>price, is slightly under $4,000 for the A3000UX-B to institutions.

>>In article <1991Feb5.220132.21422@Neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (The Ghost Who Walks) writes:
>  And quite a bit more to individuals I believe...  

	$4274 for individuals, $3724 for institutions.

	But note that the NeXT prices are higher too unless your institution
buys them in quantity and resells them (a process that NeXT encourages).  We
can buy NeXTstations (8 MB RAM, 100 MB disk, ethernet) for $3,220, but only
because a nearby university bought hundreds and is reselling them.  Not
bad at all.
	But on the other hand, a NeXT with a disk this small is useless to
me.  (On the other hand, a 100 MB Amiga is very usable.)  If you want a
bigger disk, the price jumps to $4,888 (340 MB).  And you can't upgrade the
RAM -- you have to throw out the RAM you have and replace it with bigger
chips.  (Amiga allows 18 MB on the motherboard, and can address 1.7 GB RAM.)

>  Does this include a 1100 x 800 17" grayscale monitor?

	No, an 800x600 14" color multisync monitor.  And you don't have to
buy the monitor if you want a bigger one.  Want color on a NeXT?  Price
jumps to $5,587 and your disk shrinks to 100 MB again.  If you want both
color and disk, it jumps to $7,683.  These prices are ALL educational
discount prices from a bulk institutional purchase.

> Does it include the tape drive which you'll need if you ever want to
>update your software??

	I don't know.  The NeXTstation doesn't.  Neither do DECstations,
SPARCstations, RS/6000's, ....

>Are there ANY CD-ROM drives for the Amiga?)

	Yes.

	Disclaimer:  I like the Amiga and the NeXT.

                                                        Dan

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