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From: icsu8053@ming.cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum?
Summary: List price of NeXT beats 3000UX
Keywords: NeXT list price educational
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Date: 8 Feb 91 06:38:35 GMT
References: <1991Feb1.160317.27931@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <7709@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1991Feb5.173151.12089@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
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In article <1991Feb5.173151.12089@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@geech.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes:
>In article <7709@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>In article <1991Feb1.160317.27931@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@eecae.uucp (Danny Griffin) writes:
>>> Commodore will offer 2 models of the machine. The 3000UX-B, which retails
>>> for $5499, comes with 4 MB of fast RAM and a 100- MB hard drive. THe
>>> 3000UX-D, priced at $6999, comes with 8 MB of fast RAM and a 200-MB hard
>>> drive.
>>
>>OK, everyone who was telling me "sure, it'll be priced to beat the NeXT"...
>>how are they gonna sell this sucker at this price point?
>   Maybe its because those are LIST prices. Everytime someone compares
>the A3000 to the NeXT, they always compare the 040 NeXT to the 030 Amiga, and
>the EDUCATIONAL price of the NeXT to the LIST price of the Amiga! Talk
>about an unfair comparision....

Actually, the LIST price of the NeXTstation IS $4995.  Currently, this 
includes a 200MB drive, 8 MB RM, Lotus Improv and version 2.0 of the system
software, not to mention the MegaPixel display.  The educational price for
this system ranges from $3300 to $3900 depending upon the educational reseller.
Even if the NeXT came with a 68030 instead of a 68040, it would be a better
deal.  It is fair to compare the two machines.

>  Besides, I believe Howard Diamond posted the A3000UX-B costs below $4000
>for institutions. Remember, when comparing the NeXT, the A3000UX not
>only gives you ATT UNIX, it also gives you Amiga/AmigaDOS/Color and all those
>awesome games! 2 Machines in 1. I don't wish to start another NeXT vs Amy
>war (the last one lasted for months!) I just want to point out, if you compare
>the NeXT, use a model that has an 030, some color, and the ability to expand!

This is rediculous.  Computers are not necessarilly compared because they
have equivilant features but because they are targeted for the same market.
A *fair* comparison will help the buyer determine which computer better
fits their needs.  Let the comparisons continue.  I'm sure many people here 
are having difficult time deciding which will be their next computer
purchase.

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