Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!gatech!udel!sbcs!csserv1.ic.sunysb.edu!dtiberio
From: dtiberio@csserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000UX - Born to run UNIX SVR4
Message-ID: <1991Feb8.212329.25216@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 91 21:23:29 GMT
References: <593.27ab5841@vger.nsu.edu> <1991Feb04.161126.8475@convex.com> <1991Feb7.151106.4795@cc.helsinki.fi>
Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Lines: 53

In article <1991Feb7.151106.4795@cc.helsinki.fi> jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>In article <1991Feb04.161126.8475@convex.com>, swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) writes:
>> In article <593.27ab5841@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu ((Mark D. Manes), Norfolk State University) writes:
>>>In article <8298@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) writes:
>>                                  [...]
>>>> What do you mean by "outperforms?"  The equivalent NeXT has a 68040
>>>> and inarguably better sound and screen resolution (no color, though).
>>>> Good thing this is in a quote.
>>                                  [...]
>> Right, like any company is going to compare a 68040 competitor's machine with
>> their own 68030 machine, when their competitor has a 68030 version of the same
>> machine.  That is a completely and totally absurd assertion, Dan.  Did you
>> drop your brain on the floor before you posted this crazy stuff?
>
>Uhh?! Why compare a 68030 Amiga to a 68030 NeXT when NeXT doesn't even
>manufacture 68030 machines anymore? And the 68040 NeXTs are still in
>the same price range than the new 68030 Amigas. Get the point?
>
> > Commodore hasn't released their machine that will be the 68040 NeXT equivalent
>> yet.  That comparison will not be appropriate until an Amiga has a 68040 in
>
>That's Commodore's fault. NeXT has 68040 machines up and running while
>Commodore is bringing out 68030 Unix boxes. And the prices are about the
>same.
>
>> it.  Until then you can expect to continue to see the 3000 benchmarked against
>> the 68030 NeXT.  Commodore would be insane to do anything else.
>
>Of course, since they would clearly lose. :-)
>
>BTW, when you only benchmark a 68030 Amiga with 68030 NeXT you must take
>in to consideration that what NeXT lacks in speed it wins in
>flexibility... (Display Postscript, the programming/user interface).
>
>The 68030 NeXT was too slow to handle all the niceties NeXT has. The
>68040 is not - and the new version of the operation system (2.0) is said
>to speed up the system quite considerably, too.
>		

  Yeah, but you fail to realize that commodore will probably NEVER ship an
Amiga 3000 with a 68040 anyway. In a few months, they will be the first to
ship with the new 68050 and that will blow the NeXT back where it came from!

  Obviously, this is only a joke, since the 68050 is no where near completion.

>> 
>> --
>>             _.
>> --Steve   ._||__      DISCLAIMER: All opinions are my own.
>>   Warren   v\ *|     ----------------------------------------------
>>              V       {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.com
>
>	Jouni Alkio, Helsinki, Finland