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From: cleland@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Thomas Cleland)
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Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum?
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Date: 10 Feb 91 01:19:09 GMT
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>>>  Ha ha ha...  Yeah, just what I was thinking Peter.  If you really
>>>want a laugh, you should have kept archives of all the A3000UX
>>>messages about two to three months ago...  Isn't it strange how all
>>>that pre-release "price" information was SO FAR OFF?  Remember the
>>>Byte article for "approx $4000"?
>
>>	Yeah, so why are you laughing? The LIST price is way up
>>there. The EDUCATIONAL price, which will be near the street
>>price, is slightly under $4,000 for the A3000UX-B to institutions.
>
>  And quite a bit more to individuals I believe...  
>  Does this include a 1100 x 800 17" grayscale monitor?
>  Does it include the tape drive which you'll need if you ever want to
>update your software??  (Why on earth Commodore doesn't go CD-ROM is
>beyond me.  Are there ANY CD-ROM drives for the Amiga?)
>
For God's sake, are you in college or what?

Some information is very easy to obtain  (such as hardware
availability), some poorly-understood information is easy to
figure out  (such as the difference between list prices,
educational prices, and street prices), and some information is
unfathomable  (such as why some people seem to have little bette
to do than lurk in foreign newsgroups and wait to leap somewhat
childishly upon an expressed dissatisfaction by a user).  This
kind of tripe has no business being posted, it's a waste of
other people's time and money.

But to answer you--yes, there are Amiga CD-ROM drives.  CBM is
getting heavily into CD-ROM technology starting with CDTV.  If
you can't tolerate color and must have greyscale, you could get
a Commodore A2024 "Hedley" monitor in lieu of the 1950.  It's
1008x800  (sure gonna miss those extra 92 pixels...).  Big, too.
Commodore's not desperate--Amigas and other machines have a
broad user base of highly disparate interests.  NeXT isn't
desperate either, I don't think, but their user base is/will be
substantially narrower  (home/office/technical versus
technical), which should be a cause for concern for them.

Two wishes:
1) People who should know better look up information rather than
try to parlay their ignorance into an asinine flame.
Asking on the net is fine, of course, but be civilized!

2) People stop saying "object-orientated", and say
"object-oriented" instead, like in English.

>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Evan Torrie.  Stanford University, Class of 199?       torrie@cs.stanford.edu   
>"I didn't get where I am today without knowing a good deal when I see one,
> Reggie."  "Yes, C.J."


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