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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum?
Message-ID: <1991Feb10.031437.26710@Neon.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 10 Feb 91 03:14:37 GMT
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cleland@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Thomas Cleland) writes:
>>  And quite a bit more to individuals I believe...  
>>  Does this include a 1100 x 800 17" grayscale monitor?
>>  Does it include the tape drive which you'll need if you ever want to
>>update your software??  (Why on earth Commodore doesn't go CD-ROM is
>>beyond me.  Are there ANY CD-ROM drives for the Amiga?)

>For God's sake, are you in college or what?

  Actually, I'm attending a university.

>Some information is very easy to obtain  (such as hardware
>availability), some poorly-understood information is easy to
>figure out  (such as the difference between list prices,
>educational prices, and street prices), and some information is
>unfathomable  (such as why some people seem to have little bette
>to do than lurk in foreign newsgroups and wait to leap somewhat
>childishly upon an expressed dissatisfaction by a user).  

  Well this is comp.sys.amiga.advocacy...
                              ^^^^^^^^
  Usually the best source of information is the net...  Am I no longer
allowed to ask questions about topics which interest me?  Is this some
new form of censorship?
  I was simply asking some questions, which were (to my knowledge),
unanswered by the "press release" posted to the net.  For example,
nowhere does it mention anything about a monitor - yet, many people,
including yourself seem to assume that the price includes a colour
monitor.  
  My question about CD-ROM may have been better phrased...  perhaps "I
am surprised that Commodore hasn't chosen CD-ROM as a distribution
mechanism, given that most of the other heavyweights in the computer
industry seem to be going that route".  Once again, this question was
inspired by unanswered questions in the posted article, which had
words to the effect that "An optional tape unit will be required for
upgrades of the operating system".

>Two wishes:
>1) People who should know better look up information rather than
>try to parlay their ignorance into an asinine flame.
>Asking on the net is fine, of course, but be civilized!

  I was trying to be...  apologies if you feel I wasn't.

>2) People stop saying "object-orientated", and say
>"object-oriented" instead, like in English.

  Yes, this bugs me as well...

  Two more questions (if you deign to answer them):

Has any independent body (who can post to the net) gone out and bought
one of these A3000UXs which have been available for 3 weeks?
Does the version of X use the custom chips for graphics acceleration,
or is it relying solely on the 68030?

Disclaimer: I neither own, nor intend to buy a NeXT.  I am
interested in Commodore's intended market for the A3000UX.


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