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From: doctorj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey W Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why all of this NeXT talk?
Keywords: A3000UX NeXT stop rediculous
Message-ID: <1991Feb10.073446.20683@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
Date: 10 Feb 91 07:34:46 GMT
References: <1991Feb9.083920.27791@en.ecn.purdue.edu> <1531@pdxgate.UUCP>
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In article <1531@pdxgate.UUCP> hal@eecs.UUCP (Aaron Harsh) writes:
>In article <1991Feb9.083920.27791@en.ecn.purdue.edu> doctorj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey W Davis) writes:
>>The Unix port running on the NeXT machine is not actually Unix.
>
>  Sure it is.  BSD is also a standard.  (Actually, NeXT uses Mach which
>is BSD + some extras)
This statement was made a little hastily.  My major point was the
AT&T support factor.  Consider the rest retracted.

>>Another thing I have seen too much of is the comparison between a
>>68040 based NeXT and a 68030 based A3000/A3000UX.  This is simply
>>rediculous.
>
>  Unless the machines cost the same.  When you're about to buy a machine,
>do you think: "It has to be less than $4000" or do you think "It has to
>have a 68030"?
I believe that the machine must have the capability of accepting new
processors when they become available.  The A3000 was designed with future
CPU expandability in mind.  Provisions were made to accept the 68040 when
it becomes/became readily available.  Note the more capable CPU slot
provided.  I can understand why they came out with the 68030 machine
instead of just scrapping it for the still buggy 68040.  A 68040 card will
soon (If not already) be available for the A3000.  There is no need for
a version of the machine with a 68040 on the motherboard.

As far as the cost goes, I am still not sure about this.  I have seen a
lot of unfair comparisons made between the NeXT and 3000UX.  The cost
comparisons must be done by comparing the 3000UX against the NeXT
machine with the expansion slots and COLOR!  Try and keep the features
matched as closely as possible, no matter how un-important you believe
they are.  Leave a little leeway for the cost of the 68040 on the UX.

>>Imagine an
>>Amiga running Unix on multiple T800 processors!?  If you want number
>>crunching... you got it!
>
>  Do you think that Commodore has developed a UNIX to run on multiple
>T800 processors?  Do you think Commodore will ever develop one?
Note the IMAGINE preceding this fantasy.  Just a passing thought floating
by in my mind.  It would be quite nice.  How about this then... UNIX
running on a 68040 with the 68030 handling the system overhead....
>
>>We are Amiga users here.  So why all the NeXT info?
>
>  Because this is the advocacy group where we're _supposed_ to beat each
>other over the heads with NeXTstations and A3000UX's.

Agree'd!  I am ready to start the beatings!  I have retracted previous
statements posted while in an irate state of mind (car trouble!).
Appologies for erroneous statements made previously. :-)

Let the games begin!
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