Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!faatcrl!jimb From: jimb@faatcrl.UUCP (Jim Burwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Features I'd like to see in JRCOMM Message-ID: <951@faatcrl.UUCP> Date: 8 Feb 91 00:14:18 GMT References: <1991Feb3.075026.1923@ckctpa.UUCP> <910203.083436@lerami.lonestar.org> <1991Feb03.221430.19135@hoss.unl.edu> <926@faatcrl.UUCP> <26681@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <935@faatcrl.UUCP> <26745@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ Lines: 108 jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes: >In article <935@faatcrl.UUCP> jimb@faatcrl.UUCP (Jim Burwell) writes: >>transfer is in progress. If you want to point and click on filenames for >>downloads, just run Snap, and point and click away right on Jr-Comm's screen, >>or in the scrollback buffer, or on any other screen or window in the system >>which has the text you're interested in. >As I said in a previous posting, this option takes too much time. I would >like it native in the terminal program. First, I didn't see your previous posting. When I replied to your first message, there were no other replies on our system. Remember, UseNet is not magic. It can take up to 2 weeks for messages to propagate to every site. Now, how can doing a R-Amiga-F/return/L-Amiga-M/more jrcomm.cap/snap/L-Amiga-N (or whatever) take you more than 10 seconds ? And that's worse case scenerio. Most the time, the stuff I snap is right off of the screen, or the review buffer. Would what you were proposing take any less time than that ? >>Repeat this as many times as necessary: The Amiga is NOT an MS-DOS machine. >No sh*t Sherlock. That's why I *BOUGHT* an Amiga. >>Don't try to use it like one, when there are usually much more elegent ways ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^, Sherlock. >>to do what you're trying to do. The key to productivity on the Amiga is >>the realization that the programmer of the application doesn't have to GIVE >>you the features you want. They can usually be had easily by taking advantage >>of the Amiga's built in multitasking. >I'm not. I want something that is quick and easy. If you like running Hmm.. You mean something you don't have exercise an ounce of creativity to figure out how to do. Or something Magic. Perhaps you'd like it to figure out what you want to do before you can. For that kind of magic, buy a LISP machine :-). Naw. you just want pet-feature to work exactly like it does in your pet-comm- program on an MS-DOS machine. >three applications to do what I want to do in one application, then >so be it for you. The key to productivity to me is getting >something done in the shortest time frame. I am offering suggestions >of what I would like in Jr-Comm to Jack. He is certainly under >no obligation to incorporate them. But I am getting sick of >the attitude of "Do it with external programs." *THAT* is >definitely an IBM attitude. Huh? I can't figure that one out. With MS-DOS, the programmer typically has to build every concievable feature he can think of into his program. (Although some progress has been made with TSRs). "The Amiga way" is to run separate tasks (not Applications, nor "external programs", just tasks or processes running concurrently) to do what you want. The Amiga doesn't have any special names that I know of for programs like Snap. That's because there is nothing really special about them. It's just a program which runs in the background. Since running more than one program at a time is "something special" on an IBM, (or Mac), they've invented special names for 'em, like TSR and Desk Accessory. Snap is not an "Application", it's a small utility; AH! A "Commodity". I had forgotten about the new 2.0 classification which CBM has introduced. Running more than one program at the same time: *THAT* is definitely *NOT* an IBM attitude. >Remember -- Elegant != Better. Someone PLEASE explain this logic to me! Does he think "Elegant == Kludgy" ? Or perhaps he's complaining that "Elegant != Kludgy". Now that *IS* an MS-DOS attitude! ;-) >>PS: Sorry for any flames. I'm not in the best of moods, and the thought of >>JR-Comm turning into the JR-operating-system doesn't make things any better. >Then don't post flames. Flamez ? Moi ? You MUST be mistaken! >-- >John M. 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