Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!maytag!xenitec!lemsys!clemon From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Modem Problems Message-ID: <5784.666116849@lemsys.UUCP> Date: Sat Feb 09 10:27:29 1991 Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm In-Reply-To: jra1@ra.MsState.Edu (Mephisto) In a message posted on 7 Feb 91 00:28:46 GMT, jra1@ra.MsState.Edu (Mephisto) wrote: M> M> M>>Ack! Matt buy a memory upgrade! M>>I am _tired_ of software being held back by the 512k whiners..... M> M> M> We are not all rich! I never noticed how much Jr-comm used up, but M> I would have before I scrimped (for years, it seems--I am a college student M> with very little income) and got some memory. M> M> Not to show my ignorance or anything, but why not make a program that can M> use external modules for these extra features. that way you wouldn't have M> to have a mammoth program, just one with the stuff you need. Kind of the M> same principles as the external protocols. M> M>jeff M>jra1@ra.msstate.edu Just a point I'd like to bring up. While we are on the topic of memory and how much people have. I've noticed that Amiga Users seem to be real whiners. REALLY! I mean there are still people around crying that this new program won't work with their KS1.0 256K A1000! It seems to me that in UN*X, IBM and MAC worlds, if a program requires 'x'-version DOS and maybe even 2-4MB of memory, people accept that and let it be. It's a big program with big requirements. All the rest of the world with >1 or >1.5 MB shouldn't ALWAYS be limited by the 512K minority (counted from serious users only, not gamers). When new Kickstarts are released and a program requires the new Kickstart (like 1.3), people whine and groan that they don't want to _bother_ upgrading and that all software should be compatible right back to 1.0. How are we ever supposed to get ahead if we can never use new OS features. While I did get off the topic a little I feel that there should be programs written with bigger requirements to do bigger things. We should be able to use any memory we've purchased for something other than running 30 copies of a program meant to run in 512K. Because JR-Comm is a well used program I suppose the only way around this is to split up into two versions - Jr-Comm and Jr-Comm Jr. (yikes!). With only 512K JR Jr. probably can't be enhanced _that_ much, only fixed (no offence in any way Jack). It seems to me through observation etc... that the average real Amiga user has about 1.5-2MB, with some ray-tracer people having 9MB and other generic power users having about 5. There are of course _some_ "power" users stuck with a low budget but I believe that they would at least have an A501 to give them 1MB. This is, of course, a personal opinion. I feel that it's time for some software vendors to break free of the 512K limit and just make the requirements known. If a specialized program (ie. scientific, electronics design) that someone really needs has slightly higher requirements, they're just going to have to go and pay to obtain the requirements if they require the power of that program. I would like to see more Jr. and Sr. versions of more programs out there. NOTE : I am not saying that there are NO 512K users out there. This is apparent. But you 512K people also must realize that there is also a lot of users with more to their systems that want to be able to use them. I don't really want to get heavy-duty flamed for this. I'm not saying that all software should ignore 512K or anything but with the present computer situation, 512K can be VERY limiting to a piece of software. I feel that in some cases this limit should be extended, allowing more powerful features. I also don't mean to offend anyone with this post. This post is not a flame on anyone either. I probably chose some bad words somewhere in here that don't suit the circumstances perfectly. -- Craig Lemon - Kitchener, Ontario. Amiga B2000/10--2400 bps--AmigaUUCP 1.03D clemon@lemsys.UUCP or lemsys!clemon@xenitec.on.ca | lsuc!xenitec!lemsys!clemon@cs.toronto.edu | Choose your path. ....!{uunet}!watmath!xenitec!lemsys!clemon |