Xref: utzoo comp.sys.atari.st:34841 comp.sys.amiga.misc:741 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!clyde.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!sialis!orbit!pnet51!koleman From: koleman@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kurt "Koleman" Koller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: advice please - Atari-ST or Amiga Message-ID: <4059@orbit.cts.com> Date: 9 Feb 91 03:18:04 GMT Sender: news@orbit.cts.com Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN. Lines: 28 Who was the geeeeen that stated that there were only a few Amigas in Germany, while the ST is rampant. I lived in Germany (Bonn) up until last year, and even then there was a VERY BIG Amiga scene. Far bigger than in the states. Amiga is actually able to compete with IBM in MANY of the European countries. The ST and Amiga have very similar presence in Germany. And since I've left, the ST market share has dropped considerably. Also, if we talk about other countries I visited in the area: France: Lot's o Amigas. Denmark: Lots o' Amigas. Sweden: Very lots o' Amigas. I would have to say that in these 3 countries, the ST was far outnumbered. I went to big "pirate parties" in France, one of which was busted by the "French Software Police." It was a gas. The ST has groups with similar parties, but the piracy is much HIGHER among the ST community. This comes from 3 different dealers in Germany, and 1 in Denmark, all of which have had to compete with outfits that SELL pirated software over the counter. Like B.Dalton's Software Etc.... But the laws are a changing. One of my friends from Germany just informed me a few months ago that Germany now has Software Laws as well. The people were upset that it also restricted people copying in a party-like way, not just the selling. Amazingly different attitude over there... Kurt "Koleman" Koller UUCP: {crash tcnet}!orbit!pnet51!koleman INET: koleman@pnet51.orb.mn.org